Patek Philippe

5970G is a 'better' watch than a 5004R in term of wearability and beauty? Obviously not the complication bit. I just need you guys to 'stop' me from trading my 5970G to a 5004....Help I love both watches but can't really go for both since the 5004 is now ... 

the credit card precipice because of the thickness of the case, relative to the width. There are stories about the reliability problems from a certain batch of (mostly earlier) production, but I have not taken the time to substantiate these stories. TM

IMHO Keep the 5970; but still get the 5004. They are both very different. I think you will miss the 5970 too much..... (sell me the PISA if you need a few extra $$$ for the split second Patek, hehe)

Hi, As far as I'm qualified to answer, if I had to choose an everyday watch (what I'd love a 5970 to be for myself) I'd keep the 5970. I love that watch. It looks like a great companion. If you're looking for the extreme Patek chronograph, go for the 5004... 

Before I read your post! ROFL Seriously, keep your 5970, my friend, or you will regret it. This is not that the 5004 is to avoid absolutely, but the 5970G is not to sell, IMHO. This is, as Jerome perfectly said, a very nice and great companion, and even m... 

I'm glad I have you guys to be here to kick me some sense. I really love both watches but I really think I won't wear the 5004 much since it is that thick , fragile and expensive. As for the 5970G , I have no problem wearing it . Maybe that's one reason t... 

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For what little it is worth, 5970G is my favorite watch of any, period. Well said above, this decision CL is not about buying the 5004, it's about not selling the 5970--that would be a mistake! All my best my friend.

YOU are the new King of greediness! LOLOL Impressive thema, my friend. Best. Nicolas

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This is a Great Picture Tim. I think you need to add another 5020 in it ;-) May I ask you what's the strap for that 5004R in your picture? I know it's croc but how does one describeits scale. It is not regular scale , it has something vintage about it tha... 

IMO 5970 wears much better than 5004. I understand that 5004 is 'more' complicated but it comes down to wearability.

Dear CL, You can get a 5970 later, any time any metal.. 5004 is 8 times rarer than 5970. (basing on % of sighting). In 2004, I have tried one 5004 on and the 36mm size is a forever classic. Even my wife could wear it. It was a 5004G with a 3970 dial. At t... 

The 5970 can just as easily be worn with a beautiful bespoke suit as it can with your favorite jeans (it's that versatile). In addition, it's a very handsome watch, and one that you will surely regret selling. Now, if you hunger for a chrono/perpetual, in...  

It sounds like you're already leaning towards keeping the 5970, but it's still worthwhile pointing out the following ... I believe the 5004 has risen to a price that is so high that it is not likely to be a good buy now. While 5004 is rarer, it has two ma... 

it says alot Thanks Eric , I will surely keep your advise in mind. Lovesss*CL

This has been a fanatstic thread to read and I thank all the members that took part. And for showing the photos of their fantastic collections. I can only dream of ever owning a watch such as the 5970 and 5004. So would it be possible to see some wrist sh... 

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