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When unsure about a watch, one of the conditions that need to be satisfied before I buy it would be the possibility of retrieving all my money back should the watch not be suitable. The 5131R fell into this category. Similarly, I have a left a deposit on a RW Smith Series 2 but am unsure about its 13.5mm height. Nevertheless, I do know should this watch be deemed unsuitable, it will almost definitely return my money should I decide to sell it. This is why I am unable to buy say a Lange or a Vacheron unless I am 100% sure it will be a keeper. For most of us, with the number of lovely watches in the market, it is near impossible to say how long we would keep a particular watch. I may be very wrong here but for me personally my 5940G and 7200R are likely to stand the test of time. I hope so anyway. I cannot say the same about the H Moser I just purchased or the RW Smith I have on order. They are beautiful watches in their own right but they have to feel right for me in terms of weight, diameter, lugs curvature, height, etc. Fussy old pot aren't I?! 
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Just for fun: 5131R or 5575G
No right or wrong answrs here, just curious how opinions divide between these two world time watches. On the one hand, there is the beauty of the enamel and the beautiful colouring of the dial. Yet on the other hand there is the magic of the moonphase com...
Both are fine for all occasions and I wear them as such. If I must consciously choose, I would ...
wear 5575 for work because it is more discrete and 5131 for outings because its dial is more vibrant and fun ! Cheers, Gordon
interesting.....
......i look at them in an opposite manner....5575 more for evening. Where would you wear your "Lion"? Has to be celebration watch!
yep....
.....same dilemma....i would not want to choose as both have such excellent defined positives.
Both are very nice.
However, the moonphase, as I previously said is my favourite complication and I find that its combination with the world time is a stunner, so I would prefer the 5575G. Another feature of the 5575G that I adore( not only in this specific piece) is the con...
You can also include the 5110P!
Three very different expressions of the world time by Patek. The icon remains the 5110P, for its proportions ( dial and case ), the two others have their own charm. The enamel, and the moonphase and starry sky. Why choosing when you have them all? My pers...
I make this theme a one versus one as when you get to three for comparison....much harder
I hear what you say on movement....but when the watches have such different personalities, it becomes much less of a problem for me. But i have to say, i would not place the 5110 above these two in a hierarchy.
Like Gordon and you
I have owned both and miss the 5575G more. The moon is still the most enchanting moon in any watch, the design of the lugs is very special and make the 39.8mm case more wearable than the 39.5mm case of the 5131R. Yes admittedly, reading the time on the 55...
I hear what you say on the 5575.....but.....
......you cannot tell how much love you might have had for the 5131R if you never wore it. I find it hard to differentiate these two as they have such different personalities.
Perhaps I am too cruel and unforgiving
or just plain objective because when a watch is too large for my wrist, even if it is a little too large, I will not make any compromises. This is the price of buying a watch that you are unable to try on first. I have placed the 5131R many times (albeit ...
still.....
.....you gave the 5575 a chance to be worn for a prolonged period....but the 5131 had no chance. As objective and scientific as you say you are being......watches DO grow on you in terms of appreciation and love.
Agreed!
But the reason why the 5575G enjoyed actual wrist time Joe was because it actually fitted my wrist a lot better than the 5131R would have done. Some people for example would consent to an arranged marriage in the hope that love will eventually set in. I h...
absolutely!
When unsure about a watch, one of the conditions that need to be satisfied before I buy it would be the possibility of retrieving all my money back should the watch not be suitable. The 5131R fell into this category. Similarly, I have a left a deposit on ...
Third time is a charm ....
not here in this third duel I would go after one blomman don't like Geneve carved in the case on 5131 just kills me Cheers D
I think
B-man liked the 5131 more than 5575. But after seeing the 5575 live, became more of a fan.
I prefer the 5131r compared to the anniversary world time.
But both are good watches i just like cloissone dial. Thanks for posting Baron. Regards and cheers. Geross.
I've only ever seen these two pieces in pictures.
Surely the "in-hand" experience could alter my view. But I prefer the 5575 hands-down. Probably because of the moon phase. It is so beautiful. Yes, the cloisonné dial is gorgeous. But I am not crazy about the map details and I do not care for the printing...
Unlike many...
...I vote for the 5131 specially because I love it in R version. Not that I dislike 5131G or 5575G but I don't know why the 5131R really speaks to my heart while the 2 others speak to my eyes only : beautiful but they leave me cold compared with rhe rose ...
5575 any day.
Starting with the hands, continuing with the white gold case and finally the much more interesting sky compared to earth.
Easy! The 5575G, because I prefer discreet watches to wear day in day out.
Aside from that I'm really not a fan of the hole/circle in the hour hand on the 5131.
Ugh, tough one.
I guess, if forced, I would pick the 5575. And that's only because I don't wear yellow metals. If 5131 was a P, than it would win, hands down. Disclaimer: I refuse to look at any World timers until the rest of the world decides to stop DST. It is a nuisan...
I wouldn't quite call it frustration.
More like a small annoyance at the stupidity of DST. And it is the principal of it. I would LOVE a 5131, but my stubbornness (masochism?) will not allow it.
Wow, you're one of the few people who thinks like me regarding Worldtimers!!
They are wrong 6 months of the year !! We nitpick about=/- 10 secs a day,and I don't hear many people raise the DST issue!
Thanks for support.
I guess one can get custom cities ring, but that does not fix the undelying problem. Once you live with no time adjustments, it sucks to go back. So I try to avoid any travels during those 2 weekends (and inevitably get to travel exactly then).
5575G
I m biased tho. I love the size and although the dial is "busy" it is still very balanced. Only down side is that it is difficult to read time with the small hands. ...
These are two great references
All watches have their characteristics and they especially have strength but also flaws. The latter often give a special taste to a watch (true for a car, in architecture etc...) I would prefer the 5131R if I really had to choose because of the enamel wor...
5131R!, although both are fantastic. The virtues of the 5131R have already been stated in this thread. The 5575 stands on its own functionally and aesthetically in a most alluring way.
In bright light, particularly in sunlight, the sky is mesmerizing. And under a loupe, the tiny stars are not shaped as dots, but as actual stars. And the moon is highly realistic and detailed. Plus, it is a limited edition piece which adds to the appeal. ...
Tough choice... no right or wrong here
it really depends on what one would find most use for and also what is already in ones collection. Personally if I did not have a 5131J, my choice between these two amazing pieces would be the 5131R. The colored gold case against the enamel dial is just s...