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Free speech on a privately owned forum?
I think we are getting to the beating a dead horse stage here, but...
The forum is not the public street corner. It is a privately owned entity that has certain rules of conduct, and a moderator force that is empowered to keep things on track as they see fit. By having an account (which is free) we have agreed with that principle. There should be no reasonable expectation of completely free speech here. We may not like all the decisions the mods make, but at the same time, we don't have to participate and / or create content for the site either.
One thing that I've noticed on this forum is that threads get locked rather than deleted. This was somewhat surprising to me, but it does show a high degree of transparency into what is considered appropriate vs inappropriate. The mods are not shilling for their brands (and I am not shilling for the mods), but maintaining some sense of decorum. Jim's post seemed sincere (and not offensive) but AFAIK he wasn't insulted by the mod or brow-beaten.
Some people may also know of a forum where this sort of discussion would have been shut down / deleted in heartbeat. The trick is to find a forum where you feel comfortable with the atmosphere, and recognize that you don't have to spend any time with the posts of the sort you don't like. Here's the sort of stuff that I like to see:
I noticed the previous threads which had been locked
to prevent further discussion. Actually, I thought some of the discussions to be very informative with points made which I had not considered, leading me to step outside of my box to understand the dynamics and circumstances within theirs. I don't view th...
about the price
I must confess that I'm one of those who don't always understand these locked threads. 'Investment' posts are always closed and I can understand this. On the other hand, if some people TRY to buy watches as an investment, who are we to forbid it. On the o...
The only intent in asking my question on the forum was to get a better..
understanding, not starting a financial summit.
yes, BUT...
sure, let's talk about watches. but please let us not forget that a watch is not simply a watch, not merely a physical object. a watch has many aspects attached to it (tradition, history, values, etc.), and the price -or let's say prices in general- is al...
Value vs. Purism
As a long time but intermittent lurker, I have a suggestion. Earlier, I followed a thread about whether there should be a Rolex forum, and after some debate & dissent, it opened and is frequently visited by its enthusiasts. I also followed a thread where ...
Very "valuable" idea
As you noted this is a very democratic place and everyone has a voice and those who choose to use make a difference. The team at ppro is open minded as care equally as much as the members and value the communities thoughts above all. Thanks for your thoug...
We need an unbiased moderator, period.
I don't know Dje, but thoroughly enjoy his excellent postings on Pateks. His tatest post on the new micromachined silicon parts was truly outstanding. However, he is TOO MUCH IN LOVE WITH PATEK. Therefore, he is not serving us as an unbiased moderator, wh...
I would disagree....
Actually, from his postings, I think that he prefers JLC to PP... However, a moderator is not good or bad because of his love for a certain watch.... Besides Purist is a privately owned website with s rules and paid moderators... It is up to the owners to...
We have a fine moderator here
I have no problems with mods locking or deleting threads / posts as they see necessary. Their responsibilities are to steer and direct the discussions as they (and the owners of the site) see fit. This forum is not a democracy - we participants agree to a...
By the way thanks a lot for the support received! nt
No message body This message has been edited by Dje on 2011-08-10 14:56:30
Jim no offense but..........
I think if you've ever tried to moderate a forum your opinion on the topic would be very different. Without getting into the details, its an enormous amount of work and for the most part a hobby to everyone who does it. To say we should have someone unbia...
I totally support Jérôme's decision.
It is not because I'm a moderator too. It is because me too I start to be very tired will all these posts dedicated to value. I'm not stupid, I know that one of the reasons of the purchase of a Patek watch is this kind of argument... and by the way totall...
I totally concur. Discussing about value, when it comes to watches, is a
Sterile discussion. Most of the watches, PP and Rolex included, are not investments, but only for consumer purpose. Discussing about Value is like guessing the winning numbers at the Lottery. And for the few watches which can be seen as investments, it wo...
Would you please read Jim's post again..??
Come on - Its not fair to jump on the guy just because he dares express an opinion. Personally, I find our moderator rather good, but as to whether he is only in love or too much in love with Patek is just word games. I do have the sense that a critical v...
Free speech on a privately owned forum?
I think we are getting to the beating a dead horse stage here, but... The forum is not the public street corner. It is a privately owned entity that has certain rules of conduct, and a moderator force that is empowered to keep things on track as they see ...
It never ceases to amaze me
how thoughtful and caring the community is with regard to the forum and conduct on the forum. The time that people take to compose meaningful comments shows that the members accept and embrace their role within the community the good the bad and the ugly....
My regards for pointing out . . .
. . . what may not have been immediately obvious by way of comparison with other forums, Meiwenti. Freedom of expression is a value we cherish, and content is deleted or locked only after conscientious review, often as a team effort. Removing churlish or ...
Well, you should also read my 43 000 posts, and you will see if ...
I always write " oh what a superb watch from x or y manufacture...". You will notice that I'm often direct in my positions, even with the brand I moderate ( JLC, if youn didn't know, already ). When I disagree, I say it. Look at my positions on the Panera...
A lot of differing opinions surely surfaced with
my post and I read everyone's thoughts with interest.... it shows the diversity of the forum and its members. I spent quite a bit of time writing the post, not to accuse anyone, create suspicion or discontent, but to better understand the process and the ...
Now, that is an interesting point of view, whit.
Dealing or living with a brand for many years allows you to have deeper feelings, of course. As for Jerome, his moderation with PP is one of the most difficult task, I think. This should never be forgotten. Best, Nicolas.
about china
i think this kind of stereotyping needs to stop. if one were to start saying things like americans and europeans ought to stop buying ultra expensive timepieces and focus on paying off their national debts, how do you think they would feel? be careful wit...
Agree, too many people...
...seem to be slanted towards their personal country of preference and not having a true world view of various situations.