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Mixed feelings, here.
I am among those who think that Patek is the Master of World Time Watches. In that sense, the 5110 was perfect, in terms of size, coherence of the proportions, elegance, class.
The 5130 suffered from the fact that Patek enhanced the size of the case with 2, 5 mm extra millimeters, without opting for a bigger dial.
This one seems to have the same " issue ". Some will not complain, others will.
The choice of a black dial is very good. A stellar one, why not. Universe, Universality, why not.
Now, the moonphase, I am not sure. It is well executed, but try to set it each time you don't wear it for a while... It is a pain to find the right moonphase.
I have one, which in my opinion is the nicest, the Lange 1815 Moopnhase Emil Lange, I will not get another one, unless it is linked to a perpetual calendar, whose age of the moon is automatically set to the date, so no issue, here.
But the thing I am absolutely not sure about is the case...It reminds me the Lyre Lugs case of the... Omega Sea / Speemaster 2d generation!
The Speedmaster / Seamaster lyre lugs case, still alive with the current Speedmasters:
It is ok for a Speedmaster, is it ok for such a Patek?
I have to see it in the real, though, to have a definitive judgement on it.
My biggest deception? The fact that Patek opted for the extra complication of the moonphase, rather than a chronograph, for their WT.
So, to sum it up, not mad about that one. So, no pain! 
My 5110P is still the king.
Best,
Nicolas.
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PP World Time Moon Refs. 5575 and 7175 – hands-on impressions and live pictures ...
plus the official press release . Both watches are part of the commemorative collection for the 175 th Anniversary of Patek Philippe. World time watches from PP in general are highly desired not only by connoisseurs of PP. A modern poetic moon phase add...
It may sound as a nice addition to the 5130
There are some very appealing evoutions and, for me, the case is in clear 1st position while the MP arrives in 2nd. I talk about 'addition" because it is not better or able to replace the 5130 imo. It is different. I'll need time appreciating the size of ...
Mixed feelings, here.
I am among those who think that Patek is the Master of World Time Watches. In that sense, the 5110 was perfect, in terms of size, coherence of the proportions, elegance, class. The 5130 suffered from the fact that Patek enhanced the size of the case with ...
Not so bad...
Hi Nico, I've read all your argumentation but there is no perfect watch. 1- This central moon phase brings another king of beauty to the dial center and I think it quite well executed. I don't know if it will be difficult to find the settle the right moon...
I have to see it in the flesh, before any final thought on this watch.
I am not sure I like the case or not.... I just don't know. The real experience we=ill tell me. As for the Chrono, it would have been possible to do it, ONLY if they were re thinking the design of their dial. As it is, it seems that it has the same size t...
You're right concerning the moonphase
It should be fastidious ;-( I did forget that it is not related to a QP ! Best to U, Nico ! P.S. for small-luxury-world : I forgot to thank U for this post... Sorry, now it's done !
"chronograph complication instead of a moon phase..."
They did it before, but without subdials. Will post a picture in my report about the new chronographs :-)
"Speedmaster / Seamaster lyre lugs case"
Those are different (less curvy) and (best to my understanding) much easier to do. So, I don´t see your point here.
Thanks Oliver for your candid review !! For me, the new design...
...for the hour hand with the star is a nice feature !! According to the lucky collector who has received his 5575, the position of the stars do not represent the Geneva sky. If so, are they placed randomly just for looks ? Given your comment on readabili...
Thanks Oliver
A very complete post to have iimpressions of this special watch. Even if there are some ideas of a speedmaster, it is really different, two bows "encasing" the watch, nice shape a bit of a space ship but staying Patek. The idea of a very "cosmic" in watch...
Great review as always...Love them both!
Now we shall see if I will get mine. I am first on list so if AD gets I get...Cheers,
Lovely combination
I like the new case, which differs from 5110 and 5130 models. The star hand is very well designed and adds a lot of charm to this model. Only one moon moving under a subdial changes from most proposals (with 2 or 3 small moons). I have heard of a 2 moon c...
great post..
... you have caught some shades on the dial that are very interesting. Definitely a nice watch, about the white hands, i think that even it might have enhanced readability, they might have popped out too much, and broke the mellow feel of the dial. I wond...
Hmmmmm
I liked this watch when I saw it in pics, thinking it was a smash hit. I thought this because its a moon disc Patek has never done etc... But seeing the real pictures has all but erased my lust. (Not your fault Oliver! ) It's SO busy. In some ways it's a ...
Looking at your pictures reminds me ...
that I forgot to mention the crown, which looks very nice to me. Thanks and it seems you are quite happy at the moment :-) Cheers, Oliver
Thank you Oliver….moon disk color vs strap...
It is such a great review! That is what I was waiting for! Thank you! I am trying to figure out the color of the moon disk. Is it dark blue or purely black? The reason, I am asking is because I wonder how this watch would look with a shiny, night blue str...
Funny
because when I receive the watch, they purpose me another strap and it was a blue one but I preferred a mat black I would say a blue one could fit but not a dark, a wash jean color could fit
Great review and nice photos. Thank you....
I will settle for the ladies if without the diamonds...haha. However, it's a pity the movement was hidden, wish they could have a transparent case back to admire it, and still engrave around the rim. Nice job, Oliver. Raymond
Basel 2015
They might adapt this new case design for all WT watches starting from Basel 2015, probably without the moon phase but with a transparent case back. I think it is time to discontinue 5130 after 5 years. That is how long 5110 was out there. The fact that t...
Great post Oliver!
In the past, Patek used to destroy the equipment or cast( I think) used to make the case of its limited editions. Do you know if they will be doing so with the 175th anniversary limited editions?
"Patek used to destroy the equipment or cast"
All I was told is, the movement of the Ref. 5275P - cal. 32-650 HGS PS - won´t be used afterwards - not even in a similar/simpler version. Mr. Stern took the decision.
Sold out?
Is the 5575 already sold out? Will all US AD's not get at least 1 piece each?
nice to read!
And I really like the first picture, I wish it had always such a bluish look! looks even better than the black Nice size, not too small Great curves when looking at the case Love the chrono too but in this case I would pick the world timer
Sold out
Hi Oliver, Thanks for a great review and great pics. Why do you think it is already sold out? Will all Ads get at least 1 if they want?
Hi vipkapoor, let me jump in for Oliver regarding your question of 5575 being sold out...
Initially I had the same questions and felt that it was unlikely that 1,300 pieces can be sold to end customers so quickly. I then asked my sources, and the reasonable answer is that the 1,300 pieces have been "sold" or allocated to ADs Assuming around 60...
Thanks Gordon.
I thought that there are 450 windows worldwide, so some may even get 3. Its a beautiful piece. Anybody know expected retail? Its CHF46k, so I'm assuming around USD 48k or close to 5130 pricing. What are people's thoughts on collectivity of this vs 5131? T...
Day light savings on 5575
Does anyone know how the 5575 mechanism account for day light saving time?
Hi vipkapoor, the day night saving for 5575, 5130 and 5131 is accounted for via...
...the owner remembering in his / her head the difference !! LOL!! That is the truth!! Cheers, Gordon
5575 - nocturnal and intriguing
I suffer from severe bipolar disorder and Ideasthesia, which makes life often difficult for me. I cannot stop looking at the 5575, especially when the blue-ness of the dial strikes through. Still, I could not wear it, as it makes me feel drowsy and it tas...