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Okay, pictures first
First of all, let me be honest:
The reason why I bought 5905P is that I want to have four chronograph of Patek in platinum: one normal flyback, one split second, one automatic with annual calendar and one manual winding with perpetual calendar.
I like my new watch a lot. It sits well on the wrist and I like the fact that in the black dial version the annual calendar part is not "jumping to the eyes". So the watch is very nice but it's not one of those great Patek watches which are "musts" like 5070P and 5370P. But still a very very nice watch. I might also be a bit spoiled because this watch, even I like it a lot, does not give me huge kicks.
What I am actually thinking is how much more value 5960/1A is actually offering. Let's look at the maths based on UK prices:
The new 5905P is costing £ 17,900 more than 5960/1A. If investing £ 400 for the straps, one gets two really nice custom made ones. Then the price difference in € is about 24,000. The platinum case is worth around € 2/3,000 more than the steel case so in reality 5960/1A is around € 20k cheaper plus contains also the steel bracelet. Yes, I know it's harder to produce a platinum case...
Is 5905P € 20k nicer than 5960A with strap & bracelet. It's up to the buyer. My decision was to have both but if I were in a situation that I could acquire only one, I know that I would have picked 5960A.
We all are in different situations and we have different ambitions and different tastes. So my initial verdict is that 5905P is really a nice watch but another nice watch, 5960A offering the same movement with nearly 50 additional parts, offers fantastic value.
Best, Kari
Assembled the strap to my 5960A
but took for a while a more conservative alternative. However, the curved and extended strap fits perfectly and now there are no ways to even guess that the watch was designed "bracelet only". I also could not resist the temptation and had to take a "sist...
The following two pictures illustrate how the strap fits perfectly
in such a way that the watch looks like made for leather strap. I ordered the straps 21.2 mm wide from the lugs in order to guarantee a perfect fit. Now I'm happy and will place after a while the carbon pattern strap. Best, Kari ...
Thanks keks.
I also think that for an old guy like me, a bit more classic strap fits better than the carbon one. But it's nice to have them all in the matchbox and keep changing. Best, Kari
Kari the platinum is way too formal wear it in suit , business meetings.
The stainless chrono more laid back. Can be worn in jeans , pullover jacket. My opinion , both are great watches. Cheers Geross.
For formal attire
I have a couple of good alternatives. If I should define these two watches, I would say that 5960A is perfect with casual and 5905P with smart casual. I like both a lot and 5905P feels pleasantly heavy. When I went to pick it up, I was wearing 5550P and i...
Your 5905 looks stunning!
Great impression from your picture Kari. You did very good there. Indeed the 5960A's strap is nicely fiting the lugs shape as it doesn't stop at the stem. This is another strap from the "kevlar" pattern one, isn't it? Thanks for sharing your follow-up. Ch...
No, this time
it's medium grey crocodile, matt, square scales and lighter grey stitching. When making a special strap, why to make only one, or two, or three... Now when the design was perfected, I will still get a couple of more straps, all in my measurements. I must ...
I remember you cherish the wearing comfort of both references
and, indeed, it seems you like wearing your 5960A: it is easily felt from your posts. I think Nicolas likes it too (with strap) and I must say that I also keep it somewhere up in the list (many here won't share my opinion but I think it is my favorite 596...
Both are very nice to wear.
With a crocodile strap 5960 feels very light and easy to wear. The trick seems to be that crocodile is somehow much smoother than the calf with carbon pattern I tried earlier. My surprise was 5905P. The watch feels good on the wrist even it's heavy, 14.05...
Strap material
Indeed the fact the "carbon"-like strap feels more rigid is something I'm not surprise to learn. For my watches, I thought I had to consider other materials as very thin ones (no stiches but glued, not to be chosen with thick watches though) or lizard, ga...
Today I had some 11 hours of business meeting so no problems.
Mark, I have noticed that nothing feels as good on the wrist than a crocodile strap that has been used enough. So beauty can't be the only reason why higher end watches are normally equipped with crocodile straps. Best, Kari
I guessed the end of your sentence before I could read it...
as comfort is indeed a clear asset of the croc strap when "used enough". Even when not about comfort, it is difficult to "open" to new material. However, I'll try to make an effort next time I go for a bespoke strap. Cheers, Mark
The best bespoke straps are
manufactured so close to you that just go and pay a visit. Their shop director is a wonderful and helpful gentlemen and I can give you his contacts. Best, Kari
The 5905P is super....
The case and lugs are amazing,It seems like you received the watch earlier that you thought (Not even christmas yet)....You won the bet this time ) The black version suits more what you are wearing in the picture,I think the blue will look sportier and th...
I said earlier before Christmas
because I thought I would not get a good strap before December. Luckily there was one in the storage - the rest I will get during the first days of December. I knew that I could get the watch any day but it was a matter of logistics like the straps and fi...
Tell me a bit more about your made to measure strap for the 5905
I thought you had its original strap on. Best, Ahmed
Nothing special about that...
Many years ago we measured my wist in PP Geneva and analysed, what kind of strap fits me best. Every wrist is a bit different and the right length of the strap depends both from the size of the case and from the fact how the spring bars are positioned. Wh...
Okay, let's have a look.
I took these too crappy pictures with my iPhone but I hope you get the idea. I like when the buckle of the folding clasp is sitting in the middle of my wrist and when the locking mechanism of the clasp is following the shape of my wrist. Furthermore, I li...
That is the best strap so far. Very nice!
Congrats Kari, superb combo! But please could you post more pics of the beautiful 5905! I'll get mine in December, can't wait... Please let us know your feelings and impressions about the novelty! Enjoy your beautiful pieces!!! Best Tempus
Okay, pictures first
First of all, let me be honest: The reason why I bought 5905P is that I want to have four chronograph of Patek in platinum: one normal flyback, one split second, one automatic with annual calendar and one manual winding with perpetual calendar. I like my ...
I really like how it looks from those pics and the previous ones
I could see them through the window when presented in Paris but seeing them on the wrist is much better oc. When you say one Flyback, I'm pretty sure the 5170 for instance isn't: will you be waiting for a "future" possible new chrono-only reference (as fo...
Hi Kari, both are great !
The strap on the 5960 makes such a big difference! However I prefer the 5905 because of the sexy lugs and overall dial aesthetics , plus shape of the new pushers! BTW, the 5960 pushers are hard to press. What about the 5905? Cheers, Gordon
I have been working with the pushers
of 5960 and now they are fine. The new 5905P has nearly a dream feeling of pushers out from the box. Crisp, smooth and not too much power is needed. In both watches the winding manually is like dream 5905 being even better. The feeling is like there would...
Hi Kari, great to hear about your positive experience with the 5905. Now please...
post more wrist shots ! Thanks, Gordon
I will ty to take some
tomorrow with my new Leica Q. I came to London having 5550P for my meetings, 3712 for adjusting the bracelet, 5960 for changing the strap and then I somehow bought 5905P. So simply too many watches for just four days. But when going to town tomorrow, I'll...
Funny -
I might like the blue dial over the black but the latter was a more rational choice for me. The blue dial is great to wear every now and then but for me black, white and silver dials are the basic ones. In a way the blue dial draws more attention than the...
Rubber
Have you tried attaching a rubber strap to this watch? Something like what\'s on the Aquanaut? I keep thinking that would look cool.
I have not
It would be cool but it is hard to get a rubber strap with custom fitting. Best Kari