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Very shrewd.......
..........observations jonrus. I must confess that when buying Pateks I don't think too much about the resale value but I have become much more selective and try to avoid buying on a whim, which I used to do a lot. With other brands I am much more conscious of the likely hit were I to sell, and try and buy well accordingly.
PP 5270G-001, PP 5270G-015, PP 5270G-013 and PP 5270G-014
Wow, four different versions and all of them in white gold! Lets have a more detailed look. The first one (5270G-001) was introduced in Basel 2011: The second one (5270G-015) was introduced as a Limited Edition (50 pieces) at the KunstWerkUhr exhibition ...
nice, very nice..... but too much?
The blue one is by for the most beautifull. But why all these variations. Thinking about the 5070 or 5970, these were 1 color and one dial. Do we really want all these dials in just one white gold reference. What if they make another one with a black dial...
"Less is more"... Rolex
totally agree. Rolex is a good example of how simplicity, when it works, becomes timeless beauty. 5960 is good example. They should have done a Wg very instead of 3 platinums. It would have been more affordable and accessible for some people, and in the s...
Many questions indeed
I haven't seen the Munich one in the flesh but I'm not sure about the blue color. I think I prefer the grey markers version better, and of course the full blue one. I guess the blue 5270 really needs to be seen in the metal to prefectly observe the colors...
Perspective
This is what happens when you go in house and have to get your ROI on your R&D. Combine that with a soft market for the original, you get these type of tactics. It's like changing the headlights on a car before the change to a new model to spur some l...
Well I am biased, but.......
...........the original is the best. I think the curvature at 6pm doesn't work, and even if it did the blue face (probably the best of the three variations) should be reserved for the P model in my opinion. ...
+1 , Very often.
The original is the best. Just like movies, sequels are rarely as good.
Let's debate :)
1st of all, even if i am sure those new models will be nice watches, i cannot help myself thinking that the "belly" at 6h gives the impression that sub dials are being squeezed in. The area between "10" et "2" is breathing quite well in opposition to the ...
Good comments Fricks.
For me the 5970G without tachymeter would be interesting - I find the cleaner dial of the original 5270 better than the 5970, but that's why we all love fine watches, everyone has their own opinion.
You got to wear a 5270G
... to feel the magic of the dial. I love dials that "lives", like the brushed texture of the original 5270G. The more i am looking at that new 5270 and comparing it with the 5970, it feels like it has been hit by gravity. I am still happy with my 5270G,....
5270G series 1
Has the most versatile/ complex dial I have ever seen. It is spectacular in person. Looks plain in pics. Pops way more than the 5970g.
Is it a trend
that after some time all watch brands starting with letter P catch same syndrome? ;) Thank you for updates dear Oliver Sincerely D
Panerai or Parmigiani? :)
or AP? Not really a new thing, check the several series in 2499 and 3970. 5970 managed to escape.
Is it safe to say...
that the original 5270g is the only patek philippe perpetual chrono without a tachymeter on the dial? I prefer the original to the new ''version"... but I can see the link to the 5970 more clearly. OpC
Perp chrono's without tachs
One of the 2499 series did not have a tach. None of the 3970's had a tach. I think it is funny when people say the 5270 series 1 lost it's Patek DNA. It looks like a 41mm 3970.
thanks for the information!
Funny I was looking at a 3970 yesterday and didn't even think that it didn't have a tach. :p OpC
blue is nice
however, I am at a loss... is this a transition until the anniversary watches next year, or a panic response to stimulate sales? Frankly, I think that cost is the main factor for the decrease in sales, not the dial. The added dials confuse the collectors ...
I hear you jonrus.........
........if you are buying for investment, but if you are buying it because you love it, surely you can't go wrong, whatever comes out next?
I buy it for both
I used to buy it for love alone, but that was about 15 years ago when prices allowed me to do so. At this price point, I have to satisfy both criteria. Furthermore, I have to be savvy in order to not run out of funds for the next purchase. Just being a pr...
Very shrewd.......
..........observations jonrus. I must confess that when buying Pateks I don't think too much about the resale value but I have become much more selective and try to avoid buying on a whim, which I used to do a lot. With other brands I am much more conscio...
That's too much ......!!!!
PP trying to kill this beautiful ref. by adding those dials!!!!!. I still prefer the original version.
My take
Firstly thank you for posting these very interesting changes! This is what I think. PP has now turned the 5270 into an instant classic. The watch is to die for with the grey brushed dial. It is magical in person, maybe in Pictures not so attractive. I thi...
The original 5270 was ONE AND ONLY
Hope there will at least one brand new for me once i decide to reset my visa card. ...
Thanks for this comparison !!
Very informative and interesting. I liked it right away in 2011 and I would still go for the first version, if I were lucky enough to have to decide. One day I will get one, but not this year and probably not next year, but you never know what happens. Be...
Just a quick snap-shot view....
First, Fricks...... absolutely spot-on. Second..... as i see more and more versions ..... and on each reflection i think to myself....thank goodness i have my 5070P.
maybe you meant 5970P...?
... i'm starting to understand why old discontinued nice pieces are breaking records in auctions.
Thanks all for your replies ...
and it will be interesting to see what comes next :-) Oliver
Nice dials, but....
isn't it high time that PP brought this model out with a chronograph that can count to more than 30 minutes ?? ;-)
Just for the sake of ...
we can do it ... or what is the reason you have in mind? Oliver
5270G Dial Variations
While this is my first post on the Patek Forum I have been lurking for a while and have enjoyed the beautiful images and the often illuminating and thought provoking discussions. Hopefully I can contribute something of value to those discussions. Thank yo...
The seconds track...
as a few have noted... is 'bizarre' on a classic Patek, to say the least. Shaking my head.... the Thierry era.... :(