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Why not?
I've purchased a number of watches without paperwork. You can always get a certificate from the archives (in fact, I would demand one from an AD) and not having the original papers should help you get a better price.
As a collector I prefer the total package but this is not always possible. It's the watch that is the most important unless you plan to wear the papers.
Buying a Calatrava without paperwork?
I am re-posting this question b/c I think I put it in the wrong forum originally. I would like to purchase a pre-owned (discontinued model) Calatrava. The dealer is an authorized Patek agent, very reputable and well-known watch dealer based in NYC. The pr...
Well, it depends ...
on a number of factors: 1. The paper guarantees its authenticity and that the watch has a good title (i.e. it's not a stolen watch). 2. The paper and box would makes the whole set complete (this is important but not essential, to me). The substantial disc...
How do you know that it's not stolen?
If someone sells you a PP completed with papers & box, how could you tell that it's not stolen? Will PP honour the warranty if it's already registered under other people's name?
Yes, if the price is OK
I have bought all of my vintage PPs without papers - no problem. As already adviced in this thread: Ask Patek Geneva for an extract of the archive - so you will be on the safe side! 1) You know that the watch is authentic 2) you know that the watch is not...
Thank you all so much... and question about archive papers
Thank you again for all your help and information. And more questions: Can I request archive papers directly from PP or does the AD do this for me? And by archive papers, do you mean certificate of origin?
Archives papers ...
The Archives paper is nothing equivalent to the Certificate of Origin. It's just like a copy of the record of the watch, stating the movement no., case no., calibre used and some details like the dial type and color,etc. It also has the date of sale and m...
Two options--opinions please
Once again, thank you all for your input; you have been very kind. And of course I have more to ask. I have two options: (1) Authorized Dealer will sell me the watch with a 2 year extended warranty. This is a well-known, established company with a store n...
Nice gift
If the dealer is the national chain I'm thinking of, they often do not have papers for their preowned items. They claim that they don't want Patek to penalize the people that have sold them the watch by not allowing them to pruchase hard to find items. So...
Local deal better ...
I'd advise you to buy from your local dealer because: 1. Most importantly, you can examine the watch by yourself, esp. a preowned watch. I've bought a "brand new" Patek from a US dealer in Florida ( I don't reside in the States), but the watch turned out ...