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Yes, as I replied just above to celestialmoon5102,
I decided not to include the absolutely rare ref. 3449 (only 3 pieces made indeed) because the case and especially the lugs are (very) different, even though the dial is mostly identical. Here are a few photos from Sjx.
Patek Philippe's “Padellone” case
Designed in 1962 by the Antoine Gerlach manufacture, the case of the ref. 3448 (the very first self-winding perpetual calendar made by Patek Philippe) was nicknamed the "Padellone", Italian word for "frying pan". It can be found, with minor modifications,...
The dial with apertures is clean and elegant !
Lineage is clear to current model ! Good post as usual !👍
Thank you! Yes, I think these models are really beautiful.
And they have very interesting and attractive calibers.
What about 5320G
I would see a direct link between this one and the original one ... Much more than with the regulator or the in line calendar. ...
The beautiful Art-Deco case with gadroons
and triple-stepped or three-tier lugs of the 5320G are very different from the straight ones of the "Padellone" case. As Brice Goulard writes in his Monochrome review of the 5230G with salmon dial : " Behind the design and display of the 5320G Perpetual a...
Patek used the same perpetual calendar across chronograph and non chronograph models
The 3448 and 2499 had the same perpetual calendar, the design works for both chronographs and non-chronographs so they used it for both. Today the 5270 and 5320 share calendars.
Same pc module, yes, but very different cases.
Whereas the 5236 has a different in line pc but almost the same case as the 3448.
As I just answered to Nicolas,
I would personally mind that this pt version is a late casing which wasn’t really ment to be (though, I’m aware it might just be a pretentious picky “purist’s” thought 😱😅).
I’m sure J-C Biver will be happy to offer it to you
(if it’s still his)! I personally would mind that it’s a late casing which wasn’t really ment to be. I would be more happy with yg or even wg (aren’t we supposed to be purists? ;-) ).
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What I love the most of this watch (the older ones the most) is the case design and build. It has the perfect thickness too it and shape as well.
Wow, beautiful 3450! Thanks for sharing.
In fact, I didn’t include ref. 3449 (of which only 3 pieces were made!) as the case and especially lugs are quite different. Ref. 3449 credit: Sjx ...
Another fabulous photographic review and analysis of the iconic 3448 and its progeny. As you correctly point out the 3448 was the first
self winding perpetual calendar made by Patek Philippe but it goes beyond that. It is the first self winding perpetual canlendar made by ANY manufacturer in series. Here’s another example to add to your post, a ca 1978 example that I enjoy a lot. Best, Pa...
Thank you for your kind words,
your insight (I didn’t know that the 3448 was as much a first of its kind) and your photos: what a wonderful 3448! Lucky you! Best, Emmanuel
I think there is another watch that bears mention, the immediate predecessor of the 3448, namely the 3449. While the case is different and it is manual wind
the dial looks remarkably similar to the 3448. Made in only 3 examples, it is the rarest of the rare. Christie’s sold two of them, both made in 1961 with movement numbers 799,000 and 799,002. Credit to Christie’s ...
Yes, at least it seems that way to me. Also seems obvious that the 3448 was already in the works when the three 3449s were released.
Two years later in 1963, the change was made to the self winding 3448. Interesting that the 3rd and final 3449 # 799002 while manufactured in 1961 wasn’t sold until 1965. Maybe not so easy to sell after the self winding 3448 was introduced.
I find the
following article by Sjx very comprehensive and instructive about the ref. 3449.
Yes, as I replied just above to celestialmoon5102,
I decided not to include the absolutely rare ref. 3449 (only 3 pieces made indeed) because the case and especially the lugs are (very) different, even though the dial is mostly identical. Here are a few photos from Sjx. ...
Oops somehow missed your intentional omission of 3449. Sorry about that. That said many thanks for posting the SJX images
of the 3449. Much higher quality and more beautiful than the image I posted.
No reason to be sorry, of course. According to the Sjx article,
none of the three 3449 are exactly identical, each one having a slightly different bezel and lugs design. On the piece photographed by Sjx, I personally like the bezel with its slightly “disco volante” look, but I like less the elongated lugs. And I would...
While aesthetically I prefer the game changing 3448 to 3449 and while I recognize that Patek made at least 3 manual wind perpetuals prior to 3448,
(namely, 1526, 2497 and 2438/1), to own a 2449 would in many ways be the pinnacle of Patek collecting for me. I also recognize this will never happen and am thrilled to own 3448.
I think the small seconds of the 1526 would attract me quite a lot.
On photos, I tend to prefer it to the center seconds of the 2497 and 2438/1. But it's just pure photo-based speculation: the truth is I would be over the moon with any of these wonderful timepieces (including the 3449) and, especially, with your absolutel...
Thank you!
I think I personally miss the moon phase on the "Senza Luna", but it's just a photo-based impression.
Interesting to see the moon phase corrector
between the lugs of the 3448 'Senza Luna'
Absolutely! It's part of the mystery of these "Senza Luna" variants.
As is stated in this Hodinkke article by Cara Barrett : According to Goldberger, the six Senza Luna dials were found in a drawer by a dealer in the 1990s and applied to existing reference 3448 watches, presumably fresh-to-market examples so the serial num...
I call mine my Wonder Watch
I know of course that its « official » nickname is Padellone but Wonder Watch works too 😉. The quite large size at that time and the pure design actually give a quite modern and sober look, almost under the radar (for a non-Purist 😉). The first examples w...
A Wonder Watch it certainly is!
What a "wonder"-ful beauty, no doubt about that: thanks a lot for sharing.
I don’t think I ever appreciate that all these references used a similar case design.
Certainly makes me appreciate the modern references more. Thanks for sharing.
Yes, being aware of the lineage changes the way we look at them.
And it makes me think that the two modern references will probably be true holy grails in 50 years, especially as they have wonderful calibers.
Oh, yes!
The only one attainable for me would be the 5235 and I think it would make me very happy. Maybe someday.
Oh, yes, any of the four references!
The only one attainable for me would be the 5235 and I think it would make me very happy. Maybe someday.
I would too, no doubt about that!
I also like the 5235 quite a lot, personally. Thanks for looking.
What a great post!
Just when I thought I knew everything there possibly was to know about the 5235!
Thank you! I'm so happy that you will soon own the 5235,
which is part of such a great lineage!
