Vacheron Constantin - by the way...

by the way...

I would like to recommend the V&C Reference 6181, it is also a perfect dress watch as I like them best:

At this example the colouration is very pleasant, the almost cream silver dial and the pink gold making up a quite decent mix.
The from and style is also fine, slim and smooth, the dial diameter the same (~28mm) as those of the Ref 6921 mentioned in my last post, but what a difference in appearance!
Moreover I prefer a dark blue or a dark brown leather bracelet (beside the matching PG variant, hehe) in combo with pink gold,
and for the V&C watches, only the highest quality leathers/makers are suitable to benefit the overall luxury impression.

... therefore this watch is a great combination with a business suit, simply a gentleman's choice ...

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a tricky question

By: anon438 : December 26th, 2016-09:32

Dear members, another tricky question. Which dial variant of this two ref 6181 is authentic? Both?...

I would say impossible ....

By: dedestexhes : December 26th, 2016-10:15

To say with these pictures. Without being an expert I think the second makes more chance in being original. Br, Dirk

But if you compare some sample dials...

By: anon438 : December 26th, 2016-21:57

you will not find many (any) dials with dart indexes pointing out – they all pointing to the centre. What leads to the question, why they make such obvious failures when they rework dials?

To clarify authentic as meaning not refinished or....

By: Bill : December 26th, 2016-10:27

is the question deeper as saying did these dials exisit. I really do not know these vintage watches so i can't say but i have seen invented, refinished dials with other brands of models that are not part of the brand repertoire. On the other hand a restor...

For me the more interesting question ...

By: anon438 : December 26th, 2016-22:21

.. is the authenticity and originality of the dial design because the refinishing of the dial could be a necessary step within the service procedure. Do not misunderstand me, I definitely don't ask for refinished dials. But if you have a severe humidity/c...

Agree tasteful restoration is always possible to maintain a certain level of enjoyment.

By: Bill : December 27th, 2016-06:18

the trend seems today to leave objects as found. But sometimes the damage is to large that a refinish is needed. Tastefully done can prolong the enjoyment.

Both have problems

By: Tick Talk : December 27th, 2016-09:35

Dart markers were quite popular with V&C in mid-50s when these were manufactured. Your first example appears to be a sloppy redial; that index at 9 would really bug me, not to mention a missing SWISS :-( The second example is a bit of a mystery so tha...

certainly both dials are not perfect

By: anon438 : December 28th, 2016-00:20

but you are probably wrong to judge the first a redial: In my opinion the first was cleansed unprofessionally - as everybody know the combination of cleanser and ultrasonics can remove the script easily - but there are no marks of a 'SWISS' print on the d...

Ill send you where to ask, but best would be on VC's own forum, sent you the name in pm

By: Rogi : December 27th, 2016-09:52

as im not sure if it breaks any rules. On the forum for VC they'll be able to match the references and check the pieces out.

got it

By: anon438 : December 28th, 2016-00:21

thank you.

by the way...

By: anon438 : December 28th, 2016-01:04

I would like to recommend the V&C Reference 6181, it is also a perfect dress watch as I like them best: At this example the colouration is very pleasant, the almost cream silver dial and the pink gold making up a quite decent mix. The from and style i...