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Unique Ellipse Dial Texture?
Hello Patek experts, I wanted to inquire as to whether any of you have ever seen an Ellipse with this type of dial texture? I recently saw this for sale online and became curious about the dial. I’ve never seen anything like it. Appreciate your thoughts and opinions.
Hammered dials are fairly “common” for ref. 3567,
but the texture is very different from the one of this ref. 4226.
The ref. 4226 usually comes with a sunburst dial with the word “swiss” surrounded by two sigma symbols below the 6 o’clock marker (swiss/sigma is also featured on 3567 hammered dials).
So the one with a textured dial listed on C24 seems either very unique or maybe not authentic. As it’s a private seller with no extract from the archives, it’s impossible to tell. The watch also comes without the original ellipse buckle, which is another point that calls for caution, imo.
Best, Emmanuel
The ref. 4226 usually comes with a sunburst dial with the word “swiss” surrounded by two sigma symbols below the 6 o’clock marker (swiss/sigma is also featured on 3567 hammered dials).
So the one with a textured dial listed on C24 seems either very unique or maybe not authentic. As it’s a private seller with no extract from the archives, it’s impossible to tell. The watch also comes without the original ellipse buckle, which is another point that calls for caution, imo.
Best, Emmanuel
Thanks for your perspective. I 100% agree with your assessment and caution and it’s why I wanted to see if folks here have seen anything like it.
Looks off to my eyes
Even should there be texture (is this a 3548 or 3848?) The roughness of the texture seems inconsistent with the overall refinement of this ellipse.
My 2 cents.
Chk
My 2 cents.
Chk
It’s a 4226. I don’t disagree but I do think it makes for an interesting contrast and may enable the watch to be worn more casually hence the intrigue
I would suggest that you send email to John Reardon at COLLECTABILITY.
..... there's a good chance that you will receive some helpful feedback after he sees these images.
john AT collectability DOT com
john AT collectability DOT com
good to hear.....John is a great guy and one of the most knowledgeable scholars about Patek...and especially anything Ellipse related....
Interesting textured dial, similar to the
5226 grainy one !
If genuine, there is lineage of 5226 from ellipse !
Hope that it is original and if so we look forward to you becoming the owner 👍
Circling back to let you know that John Reardon believes it to be original and has seen this before. I’ve also become the owner. How cool is it that the 5226 has a lineage to a vintage Ellipse dial?
Reporting back!!
John Reardon was incredible and got back to me that he's seen the dial before and believes it is original (with the caveat that I should get an archive to be sure). With that little nudge, I took the plunge and bought it. Now my wife and I have matching Ellipses and I love it. Thanks for all the thoughts and suggestions here.
They look lovely together Lovely watch
Did John say this was a special type of dial or was it a dial defect that gave it that wonderful texture ?
Julian
Julian