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Did you know ...
That the 2512 - the ancestor of the 5070 was an even bigger watch ?
The 2512 , made in the 1950's was a spitsecond chronograph with a 45 mm diameter. 45 mm ! and this in 1950 !!
And even bigger , a lot bigger was the Military watch they made in 1936. A stainless steel Aviators watch with a 56 mm diameter. Now a Panerai suddenly looks small 
It's a pitty I don't know the reference so I can't find any pics on the net. I'm not sure if it was ever made for the public, could have been a pièce unique.
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Did you know ...
That the 2512 - the ancestor of the 5070 was an even bigger watch ? The 2512 , made in the 1950's was a spitsecond chronograph with a 45 mm diameter. 45 mm ! and this in 1950 !! And even bigger , a lot bigger was the Military watch they made in 1936. A st...
Didn't know, Bruno.
But very interesting... If we speculate on PP Past, we wil maybe see something like that ... PP did it for the WT, they inpsired themselves from this Chrono for the 5070, as you said. Why not enhancing the size, and the movement? The good thing, very posi...
IIRC, it was meant to be an aviator watch,
hence the size 45mm. I could be wrong but that's what I think I remember *CL
thanks
you're right, here's more info ... Text and picture from Christies Lot Description Patek Philippe. An extremely important and probably unique oversize chromed nickel splittable centre seconds aviator prototype wristwatch with Guillaume balance and black h...
and here is another one
Also from 1936 and a huge 56 mm diameter ! SOURCE : Osvaldo Patrizzi - Collecting Patek Philippe Wristwatches (Volume I & II) btw, 2 books I would like to recommend !...
Very interesting, it has Guillaume balance.
Same as lange Aviator watch. I wonder why Aviator watch used Guillaume balance. *CL
Thanks Bruno for the information........
I shall look forward to reading what the Aviator finally goes for in auction. Very interesting about the large size watches back then.
Great info, Bruno
I never knew Patek had made such interesting big watches before. I love the 5070 and hope that they'll have something interesting in the next few years with a new hand wound movement.
Thanks for the info Bruno!
Fascinating stuff. Any idea why they made it so big originally?