ChristianDK
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Daniel, I think you pose a very good and valid question!
I have struggled with my understanding of the concept as well. I would like to elaborate my thoughts in a longer post, so I will get back to you (and others) hopefully tomorrow. Right now I’m entertaining a group of guests from Spain over the weekend. I’ll get back, I promise!
Best
Christian
The Eagle has landed: Astronomic Souveraine. Press Release + Product Brochure
As previously announced, the Astronomic Souveraine was to be presented just after the sale of the Astronomic Bleu. So today was the day where the watch was first presented in Tokyo at the F.P. Journe Boutique I have converted the Press Release + I have co...
Thanks Christian...
Impressive the way Journe have did it...packed all 18 complications in 44x13 plus all adjustments by crown - gr8 feat ! any hint on price? Best, Mahesh.,
My mistake
I also answered 885k chf plus tax, then noticed that Christian just gave the answer... so I wanted to delete my post but that was impossible....so I gave it a meaningless title
Great design and complications!👏🏻
And calculation seems to be very balanced: Approximately 1K for each part of the movement 😜 Beautiful piece and a very smart introduction and launch with only watch! Well done! Tempus
My initial thoughts..
after having just seen the pictures a few hours ago... I think this looks better than the Bleu. I think the dial and the added complexity from the smaller apertures are more well defined. Also the toning down from the grey helps. It is a big and fairly co...
Thanks for posting this Christian! Now I know why my post disappeared ;)
I was fortunate to see and play around with this version in NYC last month. I definitely like this version better than the Only Watch one. It's super clean and will go well with different strap colors.... I like how it's super under the radar too.
thanks for chiming in, Alex :-) :-)
Super interesting to hear your impression on this one and that you prefer it as well. It is such a strong design. I will start to save up for the autumn next year. did you see them side by side?
the more i visualize it the more it makes sense...
the strong symmetry and the big, solid case - the warm grey seems to be an extension on this stoic approach.
I don‘t mean to spoil the party but...
this one leaves me remarkably cold. I do acknowledge the technical ingenuity and craftmanship which are as outstanding as in any other Journe. But I struggle to grasp the concept. Why add a minute repeater to a watch dedicated to astronomocal complication...
Daniel, I think you pose a very good and valid question!
I have struggled with my understanding of the concept as well. I would like to elaborate my thoughts in a longer post, so I will get back to you (and others) hopefully tomorrow. Right now I’m entertaining a group of guests from Spain over the weekend. I’l...
as promised, a few thoughts..
Dear Daniel and others taking part in this thread. Sorry for my late reply. I have discovered over the weekend that Spanish people like to go to bed VERY late!! ;-) As I said, I appreciate Daniels post, because it creates an opportunity for us Journe afic...
I agree, the A.S. is his Grandest of Grand Complications
I firmly believe this was Mr Journe simply showing the world exactly what he was able to create in the one watch. That said, the Sonnerie for me is "more" Journe, and I prefer its simplicity of wind and wear, as well as its better dimensions and the fact ...
For me personally, I agree ..
I much prefer ONE complication being unfolded rather than stacking up several. (Or no complication) I have found out that many FPJ collectors have this trait in commen. I can certainly relate to your preference for the larger “right side” dial. I have jus...
My take on the AS
Dear Christian, thank you very much for your thoughts and opinions. It took me a while to reflect on the AS to come up with my thoughts on it. Let me start by explaining why I reacted to this piece. First, it definitely is a statement piece, a chef-d'oevr...
Thank you for your well considered reply, Daniel
I really appreciate your thoughts and voice in the discussion of the Astronomic. Like me, you seem to be a bit of a purist in your thinking. Appreciating a clearly thought and executed concept, (the intellectual watch you describe very well.) I have to sa...
Thank you both!
Daniel, I do agree with your purist approach, which is part of the reason I prefer the Sonnerie for its purity and watchmaking pinnacle. Your thoughts on the AS were very well articulated and your "dream" version makes a lot of sense to me as well. I do a...
I am with you, IndieFan
Adding the Journe Sonnerie to the PP Celestial will make a pretty good AS! Best, Daniel PS Not a bad Patek at all for a fan of Independents, I must add!!
Yes, it would ;)
This simple V complicated watch is an interesting discussion as there are examples in other brands, and each time I'm drawn more to the simple version... for example, my Patek 5102 versus the Patek 6102... the 6102 adds a date complication, which to me, s...
Oh, WOW!
This is really an extraordinary watch. Definately in the upper echelon! I suppose one could say that PP are independent as well ;-) Great that you have come on board 😊👌
Points well taken, dear Christian!
Your comments on the AS and background info allowed me to better understand both the watch and my reaction to it. Thanks a lot for that. I hope you‘ll soon be able to experience this beast on your wrist! Have a great day! Daniel
I can only thank you for some well thought points and a great conversation
I certainly also learned from it👍 This is what I especially love about the forum.💪 You have a great day too, my friend Christian
Why not?
I understand your viewpoint but for me, this is more about Journe, the man, showing the world exactly what he can do. Perhaps this will be his last "grand complication" piece, so it was his chance to show the watch world that yes, he can make a very compl...
I see where you’re coming from, Indiefan.
I definitely have huge admiration for Journe to create this watch, which, without any doubt, is a masterpiece. My comment is about my reaction to it. There are many FPJs, simple and complicated, that really make me sing. Not this one. Maybe also it will n...
I agree very much to the poits you make
please see the (legnthy) reply I wrote to mrds. this one is so much better looking, I think
My understanding is FP made this watch to prove a point. It's basically a "mic drop" watch. [nt]
I personally prefer simple watches with the least amount of complications. I had a chance to play around with this watch and was impressed by its simplicity on the dial side compared to the Only Watch version. But that back end was super cool to explore. ...
this is also the understanding I got.
Please see my response above to mrds. Its very cool to hear your first impressions of the piece. I really get the feeling that it grew on me when I saw the picture of the regular version.
Some like , some don’t
I don’t like it until I hold it. I saw it yesterday in the boutique. Prototype. Yes it seems strange and not practical to have so many functions into one watch and some are not related to each other. But my personal thought is , a brand need something to ...
great input Dustin
Everyone I have heard from so far, who have encountered the piece, say it is - and it looks fantastic. I know all to well, not judge from pictures and so I really look forward to seeing the piece! My expectaions are really growing every time I hear about ...
What Journe isn't amazing in the metal?
I have no doubt that this will be incredible in person... I'm yet to touch a Journe I've not liked
Journe is genius and no doubts about it.
I always said that Journe is genius and for me he is always will be among Breguet, Daniels and another great watchmakers. I think only genius can create such complicated watch without any correctors, pushers etc. This watch like a most of Journes watches ...
Hi Tsoroev, welcome to WPS
Great to have you join us. I hope you will enjoy the forum 🤗 Best Christian