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I wonder what the JLC would cost now, with price increases.
Apr 05, 2023,22:14 PM
I've had the JLC Geo UT for about 5 years and it's a great watch and a terrific value when purchased. I love the look and functionality of the JLC (although it's a slight bit large at 41.7mm). The lacquer dial in particular is really great. That said, the Ming has a much more attractive movement, although the JLC is by no means homely.
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MING 29.01 Worldtimer Launch
By: patrick_y : April 5th, 2023-16:56
The original World Time design was created by Louis Cottier over a hundred years ago. And that design lives on today with the MING 29.01 Worldtimer! I know all of us know how a World Time movement works, so I won't bore you with my usual long-winded detai...
It’s a great looking watch. As most Ming are.
By: Jay (Eire) : April 5th, 2023-18:44
I still struggle with paying a relatively new company like Ming in this case that amount of money. Which I am sure is something many of us think too. To me this is a far more interesting, cooler, more aesthetically pleasing watch than pretty much anything...
It IS A LOT OF MONEY!
By: patrick_y : April 5th, 2023-19:12
Indeed, it is a lot of money! But honestly, if you look at it, their costs of production are high since they don't have scale. True, they're starting off with a Schwarz Etienne base movement so they can save on development costs, but the movement is so he...
They have a generous return policy...
By: patrick_y : April 5th, 2023-19:55
If you really don't like it, they'll take the watch back! But I agree, without a store, how does one get a feel for the watch and how it sits on your wrist? This new concept of buying things online and not at a store is definitely very strange for me.
Yes, they do accept returns; they accepted one from me
By: cazalea : April 6th, 2023-14:12
But when you buy from another country you also have customs duties, and in CA and other places you might pay Use Tax or Sales Tax. Returning things to an overseas supplier thus incurs the complication of rewinding those fees or else just writing them off ...
Indeed!
By: patrick_y : April 6th, 2023-00:27
And you have great taste! I like just about everything you like.
Each to their own
By: quangminhtran94 : April 6th, 2023-00:00
while I think whether price is fair or not is personal opinion, justify the price because of their cost of production is not reasonable to me. Optimization of the cost of production is the problem for Ming, not for customer. Customers should only care abo...
Definitely not MB&F quality...
By: patrick_y : April 6th, 2023-00:25
MING is definitely not the same level as MB&F quality, and if they were, then their watches would be far too inexpensive! I don't think anyone implied MING has MB&F movement quality. And yes, your concept of what things cost is called value in the...
maybe I misunderstood
By: quangminhtran94 : April 6th, 2023-23:21
isn't that in the post said "this movement has an MB&F quality to it"? yes I totally agree, if there is still people buying it, then Ming is doing fine. Personally, I used to, but not now, just my opinion.
Ahh! I see what you mean!
By: patrick_y : April 6th, 2023-23:43
Yes, you are right, and that part of the post is definitely incorrect. It does imply that the quality of the movement is at the MB&F level. But there's a second and less obvious meaning, that the MING movement has a look similar to an MB&F movement. But i...
Yes indeed. Thank you Jay!
By: patrick_y : April 7th, 2023-17:28
We've got an international audience, and double entendres are not always well communicated - especially considering the context. Hope you're doing well my dapper friend! And I hope your car has come out of cold storage and is stretching its legs a bit!
I'm not a MING fan by any means...
By: mdg : April 5th, 2023-19:57
...but the price doesn't seem terrible to me. You either love it and want to wear it, or are making a bet on a higher value down the line.
Not terrible.
By: patrick_y : April 5th, 2023-21:44
Still expensive. It's definitely premium. A JLC with a similar complication wouldn't cost this much, but would also not feature some cool little touches. The Montblanc World Time watch was only around $7000 USD! And that's an established brand with pedigr...
That's very fair.
By: patrick_y : April 5th, 2023-21:50
You certainly have very expensive tastes! I'd say you're easily satisfied! Give you the best, and you're generally satisfied. Anything less than that... And you might not be fully satisfied. Pretty "easily" satisfied - just start with the best!
I'd say it's a little on the expensive side.
By: patrick_y : April 5th, 2023-21:47
You're definitely paying a premium for the cool design factor. The Montblanc World Time is only around $7000 USD. The JLC Geophysic Universal Time is around $15,000 USD in steel although they've stopped production and there probably isn't much inventory i...
I wonder what the JLC would cost now, with price increases.
By: vitalsigns : April 5th, 2023-22:14
I've had the JLC Geo UT for about 5 years and it's a great watch and a terrific value when purchased. I love the look and functionality of the JLC (although it's a slight bit large at 41.7mm). The lacquer dial in particular is really great. That said, the...
Let's say roughly 20% more?
By: patrick_y : April 5th, 2023-22:34
So it'd probably be $18K if it was $15K back then? The JLC GEO UT is a very nice watch. The 41.7mm is a bit big, and if I recall, it was also thicker than I expected at 12mm. But a very cool watch nonetheless. I was a little surprised that it cost double ...
I sure agree on that last point...
By: vitalsigns : April 5th, 2023-22:39
On the wrist, the JLC's thickness is well-suited for its diameter, but I too am sensitive to thick watches, so the JLC at 11mm or 10.5mm (if possible) would have been better. Visually, the proportions look really good though.
Ahh! I did not know that!
By: patrick_y : April 6th, 2023-03:37
Either I never knew that detail or I totally forgot it. Thank you for the reminder!
Wouaouh😋
By: Rascal : April 5th, 2023-19:11
Your kids will approve!
By: patrick_y : April 5th, 2023-19:21
The MING appeals to both the kid in us with its cool design and lume light show and the serious adult Patek Philippe watch collector in us as well.
Very nice piece.
By: vitalsigns : April 5th, 2023-21:21
Polished titanium. Cool sapphire overlay. Great looking and well decorated movement. Great size -- sweet spot for me. I love the overall look. This watch on a metal bracelet (although a titanium bracelet may be cost-prohibitive) would compete well with ot...
I like the watch and was anxious to see it
By: doubleup : April 6th, 2023-16:48
What was up with their teaser video with the cardboard cutouts ? Reminded me of a Vianney Deep Space or something and thought it was going to look like that. Anyway, I would have been all in at about 40% less. I like the brand and look forward to what’re ...
I didn't see the video.
By: patrick_y : April 6th, 2023-21:16
Vianney Halter's Deep Space does have a little bit of a cross with this MING!