Officine Panerai

The new panerai p.9010 – perpetual downgrading In late 2020, Panerai customers started noticing that their latest P.9010-powered watches no longer had “hacking seconds” . . .

I agree it would be better if it were hacking...but it doesn't bother me.

They've downgraded the finishing as well! I wonder what the damage will be to other brands within the Richemont group?

My 115 from 20 years ago has automated finishing on it...in fact, many models that put Panerai on the map at the height of their fame were based on the Unitas 6497 that had rudimentary finishing compared with the Great Houses. Everyone knew this. Movement... 

Much of my shopping is based on trust, reading reports like this makes me angry. What’s next… their white gold will be made of steel, the yellow gold of copper and so on. In other industries, and often for much less, individuals, groups, organizations etc... 

Would go for older Panerai, I guess,?

When did that start?

What about something like a 127/Fiddy … still desirable given all these recent Panerai blunders?

I have a Fiddy and like it a lot, still. Did I ever mention to you, that I own some 25 Panerai and I couldn't care less about what's inside? Keep on tyre-kicking and have fun

I always wonder whether the hacking mechanism causes more wear by forcing the balance wheel to stop. Panerai on the hand is a different story altogether. Every time I read something about the brand, it gives me more comfort for selling mine years ago.

“Perlage was only applied where it could be seen through the gaps between the bridges. Yes, this is done by other “luxury” brands as well…” That was the most shocking image of them all. Really deceptive. Go take a look at the Perezscope article if you hav... 

...Odets' position was that Lange took shortcuts on finishing the unseen areas of the 1815 L941.1 movement. This movement was produced since 1994 and the debates were occurring around the time that Richemont acquired so it wasn't "because of" Richemont. T... 

Which is better? 1. That Conglomerate A pools revenue from its watch companies to centrally fund R&D on movements 2. That Conglomerate B performs an intercompany transfer of resources/funds away from other brands to their staple brand to build movements t... 

I think any of the scenarios you presented could be great or terrible for customers depending on how they are implemented and to what end. For example, with scenario 1, is that central R&D budget more, the same, or less than the combined budgets of the br... 

...and to be honest, it wasn't that long ago that I was having the same discussion in another forum about questionable Swatch quality (Omega to be specific). On another day, it was Patek (cost-cutting related to movement finishing on certain models). On a...