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I don't get your point.
If their claim is 0-2 but you get one above or below on a small sample how are they lying? Isn’t that statistically insignificant? Or even within a margin of error? For that matter, how do you know that you are even testing under the same conditions that they certify under?
Question: In reality is METAS just a marketing term?
I have owned 3 different Omega’s with the new master chronometer rating. All ran +3 a day with this latest running -1 second so far. I thought As far as I see it Metas is just a marketing term with the master chronometers running worse than some ETA movme...
That's just what I mean
They say it’s supposed to be the most accurate yet it runs just like any other watch. Details and verbiage is one thing. Reality (my experience) is an other thing. I have personally also owned 2 Rolexes after their superlative chronometer marketing term b...
Yes, it's basically marketing. As is the use of the co-axial escapement.
In the sense I think you mean that there's no real benefit versus if Omega were using a modern swiss level escapement and the usual certification. Using silicon parts has reduced the effects of magnetism to point where Breguet is starting to actively use ...
I guess yes.
I more passively aggressively not happy that Omega made such a big splat with METAS and then I see absolutely no benifit. Now I can’t stand watches that run slow. That’s a big no no in my eyes and if this continues tonight this watch is going back to the ...
I don't get your point.
If their claim is 0-2 but you get one above or below on a small sample how are they lying? Isn’t that statistically insignificant? Or even within a margin of error? For that matter, how do you know that you are even testing under the same conditions that ...
Here is my opinion
METAS states +0/5-6 I set the time to a known reference clock in the morning wear it and put it down on the nightstand and pick it up in the morning and check against the same source. Whatever testing they did clearly didn’t cover the scenario of putting ...
Why are you on this forum?
The point of a forum is to discuss horology. You didn’t like what you read so you went Omega nuthugger defending them! I don’t know who you are but from my time in this forum you have been the only troll like responder! Summing up your responses.... Go bu...
Not always
I have a Rolex that is running -5 secs/day when on the wrist since it was brand new. It bothers me a bit because of all the 'superlative' mumbo jumbo, but not enough to make me send it back. On the other hand, my most accurate watch is a Squale Master, wh...
I've had them all
The issue is not the time keeping to the second it’s the fact that heh gloated about METAS and put some bs numbers down on a website. I get the watch and it’s running slow which is not even within their acceptable tolerances. Also to your point. ETA movem...
Honestly if you think -1 sec / day (and consistent!) is a bad value, you should maybe buy Quarz watches.
Everything which is consistently in between 5 sec is simpy perfect. It wont get any better!
That’s not the point.
The point is METAS states +0/(5..6) not -1. I couldn’t care less if it was +10. What I care about is false bs marketing which is what METAS is. To that point I bring Rolex Into the picture as they are Omegas biggest competitor. When Rolex said superlative...
A certfication is a snapshot!
If this is Marketing bs (as you call it), then so is also COSC and many others. I do not agree at all! The certifiaction that DO make sense is 1) METAS (specifically Magnetism!) 2) Qualité Fleurier 3) Poinçon de Gèneve (optical QC)
Agreed it’s a snapshot
But when one says +0/6 and one says +/-2 and one stays in the range and the other does not.... call it whatever you want!!
This at the snapshot only.
And if it was like that from the beginning - bring it back. As easy as that!
Ok
Your points are not wrong but you clearly missed what I was saying. I don’t work for Omega and not sponsored by them. My reality is they are liars. I will be selling this watch no doubt in a few months. Good thing there are other watches on the market tha...
I’m not frustrated
You are an Omega fanboy which is ok every forum has one! I however am a realist and like a range of different brands/models and have no problem calling it how I see it! My money after all
I am a watch enthousiast - actually since 25 years...
I do respect other preferences and attitudes but I do not apriciate if it’s nonsense ... 😉
Two general factors make most watches run faster
One is low temperature and the other is leaving the watch with the dial facing down. You can't change the temperature but as an experiment see what happens with the dial down. As for META, I would agree; it is a marketing ploy. The problem is when they ra...
Yup agreed.
I’ll try dial down tonight. It’s just not a natural way to leave a watch so I usually either put them in their side (helium escape) side or flat. We will see
Personally, I wouldn't send it back then
I know that you are disappointed by their claim but I think that is good time keeping by any standard. The problem with sending it back is that a new watch is going to be opened and who knows what will happen after that. See if you can forget about their ...
As a Rolex owner
of course it’s bullshit. Omega went all in on a movement that at first failed horribly and now only runs as good as the traditional lever escapement. All of the problems it was meant to solve are already solved by modern materials. They want to be better ...
I love both brands.
Owned almost every modern sports Rolex but I also had my share of new Omega’s. I think Omega really has good value proposition these days. Take this new seamaster 300M. I think it’s every bit as good if not better than a submariner when you take into acco...
Owned both can say hands down Rolex does it better.
This is one of the many things that separates the brands. I like them both and wear them both but I will say it how I see it from MY EXPERIENCE. My particular watches have never ran any better than a basic 2824 ETA
9300
Actually I own the Seamaster Planet Ocean Chrono with the 9300 movement as well as the Seamaster Planet Ocean with the 2500 movement. The 9300 is accurate to the second. For over a year now...not the minute but dead on to the second. There is no doubt in ...
I have had....
The seamaster 300, seamaster 300M 2500D movement and the new plant ocean 8900. All ran +3.5 daily. That’s not bad at all but it’s not +2/-2 thst my explorer II, datejust 41 and air king put out. I feel I have a good sample size with this being my 4rth Ome...