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Not much to add...

Hi, Hoipolloi,

with the provided information (pictures) the largest part is guessing only.
What I wrote above is only my poorly educated personal take.
Personally, I believe the chronometer printing was done at a later stage - if it were done when the watch was originally
equipped with this dial - it would be more than unlikely that the printing colour would've aged differently (like visible on your pictures).
And there are mor hints, but it wouldn't make much sense to discuss more about it, IMO.

But anyway, everything is more along the line of personal preference and what one would "like" to think about the story behind.
It could be an original (non chronometer) dial used as spare - the chronometer printing added later in lack of a full chronometer dial
in stock (would it be original? - would it be more original if the chronometer printing was added by an Omega worker and less original when added
by some expert in the Omega dial supply chain - even less original when added by some independent specialist ???).
Could also be a spare part dial sourced out of some NOS of once originally rejected dials (I've personally seen thishappen more than once).
Now, would this still be "original" ??

My initial answer was based on a very strict POV - I personally believe your pix don't show the dial/watch combination (aged of course) as they left the factory.

Personally and from a collectors POV I wouldn't have a problem though - it's a vintage watch with a lot of life (and service) history - so nothing wrong
with the dial.
Best is you go with the oppinion and experience of the real experts, i.e. don't believe me

Best regards
Suitbert

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MOY ??

By: hoipolloi : May 4th, 2010-19:38

I started a fire in another forum with this dial, some people there say the MOY is off and don't want to accept it as authentic. Now, it's your turn to decide;-)...

Looks original to me

By: MSNWatch : May 4th, 2010-19:47

Why should it follow the MOY rule when it isn't a constellation?

Non original, IMHO...

By: SuitbertW : May 4th, 2010-23:15

Hi, even going by this pix only... - "Chronometre Officially Certified" is clearly printed seperately (added at a later point)from the rest of the dial (different tint of black....etc) - Font seems a bit too large compared to the rest - isn't well centere...

how about another shot ?

By: hoipolloi : May 5th, 2010-05:48

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Looking at the whole dial picture from Hoi's earlier thread

By: MSNWatch : May 5th, 2010-06:08

It looks like a cal. 352 movement in perhaps a ref. 2516 case; still looks like an original dial to me. I think though it would be better to assess it in the context of a whole dial pic, case, movement and inner caseback photos.

Mike !!! You are the master.

By: hoipolloi : May 5th, 2010-06:20

Yes, it is a 2516 case with 352 Rg Movement. But when Suitbert observed : "To me, most likely an original dial, altered to be a chronometer dial at a later stage" I think he's correct, too. Why ?...

Case back 2516.

By: hoipolloi : May 5th, 2010-07:16

If you look into Omega database, you will find : Reference OT 2516 International collection 1949 Movement Type: Automatic chronometer certified Caliber number: 352 Created in 1949 17 jewels and this "...It seems that this watch style also existed with "Se...

Also if you want to sell more examples of early Pre Connie dials..

By: Bill Sohne : May 5th, 2010-10:43

HI everyone... Personally I think the dial is proper from the photos posted , just my opinion. The MOY was basically based on Connie dials... that came after the early Seamaster Chronometres. Also I do not agree with the Omega database on the 2516 with a ...

My thoughts, too

By: mrsnak : May 5th, 2010-10:45

The fonts are all correct and original, just displayed differently.

Not much to add...

By: SuitbertW : May 6th, 2010-04:47

I am torn between...

By: mac_omega : May 5th, 2010-12:24

I am torn between the 2 opinions - the font looks good and original to me too - I have seen so many iterations yet... But I also must agree with Suitbert about the different tint of the printing - maybe an addition of these words at time of production to ...

this is the bit about vintage Omegas that always loses me

By: G99 : May 6th, 2010-05:05

i do, however, agree with Bill on this. i thought the MOY system only applied to Constellations so should not be considered here. the dial looks fine to me, but i am no expert in ref numbers etc. i think we have to go with the 'never say never' system whe...