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I couldn’t agree more
It’s not a matter : of aren’t we nitpicking here? Or “diminishing the over value. ..”
handmade guilloche has a very specific and well understood meaning. If you say it, you are saying in effect, …by a rose engine.
It’s not about diminishing the overall value. But diminishing the overall credibility of the firm marketing the product. And yes, diminishing the overall cost of a good sold does diminish its overall value of the goods being sold.
It may not decrease the overall desirability or scarcity which could make up for that reduction. But something made more cheaply is cheaper. Whether it is a store of value is determined by the subsequent highest bidder, not by the owner.
There is a concept called truth in advertising and like another poster here ( who makes the central point ) the customer has the right to be informed and the right to choose based on the truth.
I have a neo vintage chronoswiss Delphis. The dial is stamped. I purchased it at a diminished value years after it was produced. I’m very happy with it at the price I paid, knowing exactly what I purchased. Besides being enjoyable to wear, I believe it will be a store of value at the price I paid, but I would not have bought it at the price originally offered.
But I digress.
The point here is that we cannot redefine an agreed upon term to suit our sales plan and increase our sales margins unless the market redefines the term. that’s ignorant at best and deceptive at worst.
Hand-Turned or Machine Guilloche? See WatchAdvisor video starting from 18:30 - Credit to WatchAdvisor for Video and image
That’s the video I mentioned a few times, was too lazy to dig it up
I think that the definition of HAND MADE finishing is out of control
Breguet uses a rose engine in the same price range
Many purists thought it was hand made
I couldn’t agree more
What I take from this is Parmagiani is playing fast and loose with certain dial-making terminology.
Here is a very short video provided to me by a contact at PF briefly showing the dial guilloche process.
Is the anglage made by a Dremel hand made?
Clarification from Parmigiani today
Right - as noted above, I think there are many ways and methods to create a
15202 dial was created partly on a rose machine and that’s one of the reasons I got one; see below..
One more interesting thing to note about manufacturing the Royal Oak
The comments on the video are funny and also address the misuse of hand made for both dial and bezel