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Congratulations Mark,
your 5712 is clearly your First Only Watch. Just 15 to go...
Indeed, 5370P is a fantastic watch - it has everything. I have ordered mine and on Thursday over the dinner with Patek's representative I will bargain about the delivery time.
These London Editions are a very specific case...
There has been a lot of discussion about these including the pricing. First of all, these watches will not influence to the "values" of older 5070 - the dials are different. In YG, RG and WG the differences are clear. In P the old reference is 5070P-001 while the London Edition is 5070P-013. The dial is a bit darker blue and more sun bursted. Anyhow, both the WG and P are fantastic watches but if I would have the opportunity to acquire something, which one would I take? Naturally both... But...
What comes to the pricing, I understand Patek 100%. The watches are priced according to the latest auction results. Still, they have a special dial and I am quite sure that the happy buyers will have their invested funds relatively safe. Furthermore, the last movements and cases Patek can price as they want because they happened to be the owners of the same.
In my daily business I operate a tanker fleet. I have i.e. on time charter a VLCC costing $ 33,000 per day. At the moment the spot market is giving around $ 100,000 per day. Should I take it because it's the market level or should I say "it's not fair, it's too much". Naturally I take what I can! The same applies to Patek Philippe: they try to sell their products with the highest possible prices the market tolerates. If those prices are too high for me, it does not mean that the pricing would be wrong.
The goal of each and every company is to maximise their profits both on short and long run. And we live in an environment called Market Economy.
Right or wrong?
Best, Kari
It's not a 5906, not a 5370, not a 5110, not a 3970, not a 5270, not a 5004, not a 5078, not a 5207
.... or another perhaps "holy grail" of Patek. But I love my 5146G-010 which has proven to be a true friend and companion, perfectly providing me with every information and support I need during my daily business life. The 5146G in white gold is my first ...
It is a pleasure to read... you peaceful satisfaction...
Your first sentences are exactly the reason why we often tell people seeking advice to try to understand what their inner feelings tend to be. Because a watch is not which one is the most famous or iconic etc but which is the one that sings to our heart. ...
The importance of chosing well...
Very well put, Mark! I completely feel the same. Today I tried to express some further thoughts about this. And thank you for your very kind words! Cheers, Thomas
Thomas
Wishing you all the best in life .you are right all you need is one good watch, Well Done Regards Seconds
There could be more than one.... ;-)
As long as you don\'t loose your connection and relationship to them. Above all a watch should be worn (IMHO). With pleasure, gratitude and happiness. Thank you for your kind words! Cheers, Thomas
Looks like that watch will put a smile on your face everyday
We don't have many things that have that power on us but I must admit to look down on your wrist and that Patek smiling back at you must me a great feeling. Bill
Thank you, keks!
And I am very impressed by your stunning 5980R. A wonderful watch.... Wear it in best health and happiness! Cheers, Thomas
That is a blessing....
Loving what you have and not wanting more. Enjoy it in the best of health Best, Ahmed
Thanks a lot, Ahmed!
Did you take off your beautiful 5167A in the meantime? Cheers, Thomas
Thank you for your honest and straight post.
I must confess that your post made me to "look at the mirror". I do not have a watch I would feel about in the same way as you feel about your 5146G. Perhaps I have not found mine yet and I keep searching. Or then I have simply too many watches I like and...
Hear, hear
Thank you, could not have put it better myself! Just returned from a visit to PP and feeling suitably enthused. I took others on the trip, but so happy to be reunited with my 5146p. It was my first, I wear it every day and for me it\'s charms will never f...
This platinum version is
the nicest PP AC. And the original strap fits perfectly! Best, Kari
I have to thank YOU for your honest and straight reply, Kari!
You are so lucky since you got so many beautiful and stunning pieces in your collection, selected with profound understanding and careful consideration (I had the chance to read some of your former posts). Perhaps you should give some of them more wrist t...
Thanks. It might sound crazy
but I have too many pieces to give them all enough wrist time. And what am I doing? Buying more... If somebody else would behave like I do, I would call him an idi.t. Best, Kari
A great post Thomas!
I enjoyed reading it and admiring your nice pictures. I can feel you really enjoy this PP annual calendar and I love your post for this! Thanks for sharing your passion here with us Cheers Robin
It's always a pleasure or me to
read your posts, Robin! Thanks a lot for those, too! And warmest greetings to your 5712 (and to your 1948, but that\'s another forum... ;-)) Cheers, Thomas
Long time we didn't have....
... such a post that carries such a nice story. Reading it, reminds me that this is what is all about, more than having this or that complication. We tend to forget it, thanks for sharing your story.
Thanks a lot for your warm-hearted reply, Fricks!
I have seen your 5070P some days ago. A marvelous piece that for me could also play the role of wonderful daily companion... Cheers, Thomas
As the others have said
A wonderful post. A joy to read and relook at. Bravo. With this watch,I agree with all you said. I own it too, and every time I wear it, I have your feelings. The dial color for me is unique. Also an extremely versatile watch. Congrats Joe
Thanks a lot, Joe, and
wear your special piece in best health and happiness! Cheers, Thomas
Overwhelmed...
Dear all, thanks a lot for all these really warm-hearted and friendly comments on and feedback to my post! I\'m ... overwhelmed. That\'s the reason why I feel so "at home" on this website. Here I find not just enormous know how, experience and people from...
Be certain that your pleasure is totally shared Thomas, thank you :)
In many fields, people can't understand if they don't go deeper themselves. It is the difference between being open-minded versus not being able to accept what one doesn't understand. This is a very personnal journey at first, and is afterwards enhanced b...
Yes I agree it's got everything a watch can have.
Except a chrono function. But that ok , you could always count the seconds and the minutes. Enjoy your watch. Cheers. Geross
Dear Geross, yes
a chrono would be nice... I have sold them all. Either because they didn\'t "sing" to me anymore, were - to my mind - not unique enough (the same ETA Valjoux 7750 in various brands and forms) or because they were not "pure" enough. I also have to confess ...
Thank you so very much for sharing your thoughts Thomas,
And I have always wondered if there is an exit piece to replace a collection. Thanks to you I think there is hope for us all )) A ring, I mean a Watch, to rule them all ! Best regards, -- Seeks
Excellent... :-D
The challenge might be: an exit piece for each brand? This would also lead to a constantly growing collection difficult to control... ;-) But hope always dies last... And, Seeks, thank you for your very kind respond! Cheers, Thomas
I think you're not the only one Seeks
Everyone behave differently but I think that my tastes evolve, thus I don't think there will be only one. However, there may be only one at one moment (a year? 5 years?) which could replace a little collection. It hink I can do with only one watch. And th...
No, no, no Mark!
I have a big bunch on "Only Ones". When you find perfection (in its class), it is very difficult to give it away. Think about your 5712 or my 3712: a nice chronograph or perpetual calendar can't replace that but they can stay aside. I thought it would be ...
Haha I like your reaction Kari :)
Yes indeed, you can perfectly find your own tune and ideal number. As long as it is the way you feel and your appeal for those watches works. There are so many ways and feelings about watches. I completly understand you stand. For myself, I think I can't ...
Congratulations Mark,
your 5712 is clearly your First Only Watch. Just 15 to go... Indeed, 5370P is a fantastic watch - it has everything. I have ordered mine and on Thursday over the dinner with Patek's representative I will bargain about the delivery time. These London Editi...
100% agree.
This is also my thoughts. And didn't understand the fuss about the prices. Patek's policy is fully reponsible and justified on that matter. When times are good, a company has to follow, when times are not, it will need the security it gathers during the g...
If I get anything,
I will PM the same to you and then you are the "loose mouth" (lol). Best, Kari PS. I have not heard anything even I have asked. But I have been in the waiting list already like one year. Same with 5131P & 5170A&P. Best, Kari
I tried adding my name to the list of the 40th nautilus edition.
When I was in London a week ago,But they completely denied and didn't know what I was talking about They made me feel I was nuts. Please Kari PM me as well if you know something. Best, Ahmed
Are you nuts?
I do not know anything... I spoke with one of Patek's top executives and he said: "perhaps a dial variation; we have not decided yet". First of all, they all lie and it's their job! At the same time it was admitted that something comes out. I'm on the lis...
Congratulations Thomas.......
The 5146 is a great all round piece, incidentally it was also my first Patek. I agree with you fully, when you say that its perfect as an everyday watch
Perhaps it's not an incident...
and we just had the same thoughts and reasons? When did you get weak and acquired your second PP? And which model did you choose? Another "all round piece" or something "special"? Thanks a lot for your kind reply, Topcat30093! Cheers, Thomas
Lol, it's a deal!
I don't think they know anything yet, it must be kept very secretly. Anyway, I'm very excited to discover it: a new model (like they did for the 30th) or a limited edtion?....We'll see Have a nice dinner anyway Kari.
Nautilus 40th Intel...
...there will be something, there always is. But shouldn\'t expect anything big: Nautilus share of sales is at precise point they want it to be and don\'t want to increase520it at the expense of other lines. The manufacture was like Willy Wonka\'s chocola...
Indeed, I know that Patek has to be very careful communication
...especially in a connected world were things which are not always reliable go too fast. It's agood precaution imho, even if we always want to learn more I heard indeed that they wanted to keep the Nautilus production as it is and not loosing control of ...
Mystery...
...is an essential part of their model. And they can cultivate this to the max as a family business that isn\'t really answerable to anyone. We, of course, love that. I really enjoyed seeing at the manufacture what the staff were wearing. Some classic pie...