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Have more faith in Mrs. Stern...
Good questions Kari,
1. "why would they produce a bigger number of simple watches when they can also sell the complicated ones?"
It's not about the "bigger number" but the the "better " and more innovative of design, and those are key values of Patek, they will never stop improving and innovating and listening to their customers, but we must speak up. They are listening.
Remember, the simple watches are often entry watches for lifetime Patek customers. But a potential lifetime customer can quickly be lost for ever when he is unable to step up from a "simple watch" to the "complicated ones" if the complicated ones do not meet his lifestyle requirements.
The most important question in business is: What does the customer value?
2. "One of the basic values of Patek is Rarity and another one is Exclusivity. How would a bigger collection of sporting watches fit with these basic values?"
They discontinue watches over time. The better designed watches will be the ones that will survive. I also trust that Mrs. Stern is never "satisfied" or "sated" with the lineup, at least to the point to not be innovating toward the next design evolutions. While slow and steady, it is a constant movement, unlike the near motionless frozen state of design at Rolex.
Bottom line Patek is delivering to the needs and wants of the customer for the sake of getting and keeping customers for generations. They exist to serve us, not us them.
Bezels & Crystals & Nicks & Scratches, Mrs. Stern Listen UP!
Kari, in another post of mine you lamented the marks of wear on your 5167 bezel. I'd like to respond and ask all the readers to post a pic of your best scratch and proof of wear yet to be won on your Patek's skin, regardless of which model. I nearly celeb...
Interesting thoughts...
I must admit that I like my watches better with less scratches than with more scratches. The sad thing of both the Aquanaut and Nautilus lines is that the bezels of those watches are real scratch magnets. Just now I am wearing Blancpain Aqua Lung and this...
Have more faith in Mrs. Stern...
Good questions Kari, 1. "why would they produce a bigger number of simple watches when they can also sell the complicated ones?" It's not about the "bigger number" but the the " better " and more innovative of design, and those are key values of Patek, th...
Lucky you!
When Patek is concerned, you are an optimist. I am a pessimist but still love Patek. Anyhow, I hope that you are right and I'm wrong! Best, Kari
Good luck with that...
faith thing... I enjoy talking to AD's and watch repair specialists all over the world - ok maybe not all over but many places in US and EU- and what I heard consistently from objective people is that PP has a great movement, but their cases are terrible,...
Fan-boyism...??
Quoting you: "Bottom line Patek is delivering to the needs and wants of the customer for the sake of getting and keeping customers for generations. They exist to serve us, not us them. " Doctor, I'm concerned, especially with the last sentence in your pos...
Hmmm...
Greetings Patrick. Considering the tone of your posts in this thread, if I didn't see your name attached I might have thought that I wrote them! When did you get so boisterous? LOL Best regards.
Not all of my posts are rosy...
You're probably too familiar with my posts that are very complimentary. While the majority of my posts are of such nature, there are posts that I read that don't elicit such a response. Sometimes I will not respond at all, but if I feel that I can help an...
Ver-boyism...
I like your post Patrick. I could go on and on about PP and Aquanaut shortcomings. the 324 movement has an inconsistent accuracy as compared to at least 6 other movements of which I've owned and tracked the accuracy. The 324 gains and then loses as much a...
wow where do I even start
This is the perfect example of a guy who has drunk his own kool aid. I am a lawyer and I know well the danger of falling for my profession's own BS. Quoted from the OP " What most impresses me about PP Patrick and what I think you are reading into and see...
doctor , just back from swimming 40 lengths
of the local community pool with the nautilus 5711 on the wrist. I couldn't contemplate taking it off whilst i swim and its now got its share of nicks from daily wear.Everyday the bond gets stronger from regular wear. regards darma
I agree...
I basically use my 5167 as a daily wearer. Although I wish it would come back from its regular service (it's been in Stern's care since late January). It has indeed been scratched in my usage and I declined to have the scratches polished out as part of th...
Rolex has no consistent values? Some respectful disagreements.
Regarding this paragraph: " Don't get me wrong I'm sick of Rolex branding and positioning and screaming loud designs and cliched ubiquitousness. Despite owning three, I eschew them now. They just can't behave in public. They are destined for a great fall....
Rolex vs. Patek - Business Strategy, Philosophy, Values
You are dead right Patrick that "Rolex has incredible consistency with their watches." so consistent they are nearly devoid of any significant innovations in a half century. And please don't talk to me about Blue Parachrome. I'm talking design. Wow, they ...
Whilst I share your sentiments about Rolex,
the company won't fail because it's market position is too secure. People who read these posts are passionate about watches but most people don't care and that is why Rolex can't fail, of the available market share Rolex is the brand that the largest shar...
Wrong on many points
First of all, Rolex makes not millions of watches annualy, but "only" cca. 700.000. Second, even Patek's CEO Thierry Stern said in an interview that one of the watch brands he admires is Rolex, for their consistent high quality: "Rolex is another one I re...
Accuracy...Patek vs. Rolex vs. Omega...
You didn't read all of my post. Rolexes have the potential to be one of the most accurate movements made, my last two rolexes literally held to within plus or minus 3 seconds for months, but again I had to be fired as a Rolex customer because I had to vis...