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It bugs me each time I see Grande Complication for a chrono, a perpetual calendar or both... A Grande Complication is the combination of at least a minute repeater ( Grande Sonnerie preferred ), at least a Chrono ( Rattrapante, better ) AND
A Perpetual Calendar and a Tourbillon...
THAT is the definition of Grande Complication.
I never understood why Patek felt the need to call the rest grande complication...
Best,
Nicolas
Why Patek? I can think of one reason…
Wearable grand complications, elegant and refinement….so actually 3 reasons 😁 I have tried other PCCs but none can compete with Patek, just yet. Still in honeymoon. ...
Yes Sir, finally I can eat something good 😊
Can’t wait to boil 2 eggs with your 5004/5204s 👍🏻
Have you had a chance to compare with an AP perpetual?
I feel Patek easily wins against modern AP perpetuals for the reasons you like your PCC. But I wonder about certain historical AP perpetuals…those were really something special. I do wonder how they measure up head to head.🤔
No and probably never will…
AP doesn’t feel I’m worthy of their watches and they can go kiss someone else’s A** I will not give my money to them 👎🏻 It might sound funny but if I will to own an AP, I will buy them at deep discounts from grey only, no BS.
Admittedly, I know many people have had bad experiences with certain boutiques during the Covid craze…
which isn’t to make excuses. But I’d bet if you approached them now or coming months, the experience would be better, especially at an AP House from what I hear. Still, you are correct that given the normalization trend, you would be able to get exactly w...
Thank you for your response…
I used to have my name with a certain boutique but the sales is more associated with rap stars, sports person…was offered the first gen Code which I declined and heard nothing for years. Last year, I visited local west coast boutique and registered my int...
Before I got this, I was also thinking about the 5270R…it was on my list of 5270s to choose,
I thought that a grand complication should look grand, no need to hide like a white metal and I like RG too….too bad it was sold before I could get to it. Any version of the 5270 is nice, imo. Thank you and I hope your get yours some day!
It bugs me each time I see Grande Complication for a chrono, a perpetual calendar or both... A Grande Complication is the combination of at least a minute repeater ( Grande Sonnerie preferred ), at least a Chrono ( Rattrapante, better ) AND
A Perpetual Calendar and a Tourbillon... THAT is the definition of Grande Complication. I never understood why Patek felt the need to call the rest grande complication... Best, Nicolas
Sorry Boss, you are clearly on a different league….
For the rest of us peasants, this is the top grand complication, haha. I don’t need a minute repeater or tourbillon, no change since many years ago, as I wrote in my POTM self intro, along with few other members, here on WPS 😬
I’ve found this definition online, which is just a little less stringent than yours…
I’m personally ignorant on the subject… ...
No it did not....it's a combination of any 3 of those criterias, if I read it correctly. A 5270 has:
Chronograph, Perpertual Calendar, Moonphase etc.
Does it have to be a minute repeater or can another acoustical comp. do the trick?
The definition I’ve found on internet says (for what it’s worth: once again, I’m really ignorant about this topic): chrono comp. + astronomical comp. (but not necessarily a perp. cal.: it mentions a simple calendar or a moonphase) + acoustical comp. (incl...
I had this discussion with JLC when they released the Master Grande Tradition Grande Complication, and they agreed that the term Grande Complication was a bit excessive...
We had private emails about that for the fun of it. And we fell on a classic definition which was at least a chrono, a perpetual calendar and a minute repeater. Some added a tourbillon.
Beautiful piece indeed… a Patek collection without A PC or PCC is never complete…
I have the P version and i love it… ...
That's a nice version and looks like you still haven't wear it since July....
That's unforgiveable, lol...if I have that, I will be wearing it, at least once every week.
Honestly i do wear it…
But i dont bother to change the date/month… this is a watch where the dial makes you forget the rest of the details😂
The 5270 is a fantastic watch 👍🏼
Even when I have to admit that I'm not a fan of the chin. But hey, there are variants of 5270s out there for almost every individual taste. The 5270G-001 was my choice. Was happy that this is a less attractive version, so I could afford it 😉 ...
Absolutely there is a lot of variants for everyone....
Always 2 sides on a coin, the 5970 only has 5 variants, and you might see someone with same dial, but highly unlikely since only rumored to be only 2800 pcs total production. I don't mind a 5270 and I think mine may be less attractive than your -001, so I...
For me the Patek PCC is the ultimate. Your 5207 clearly has some DNA from the 1518 which was the first serially introduced PCC of any manufacturer.
It was introduced over 80 years ago in 1941. Phillips NY watch auction this past weekend by coincidence sold one or more variations of each of the PCCs - 1518, 2499, 3970, 5020, 5970 and 5207. Plus 5004 and 5204. Beautifully photographed and with very wel...
I saw that auction and man....that 5970R was a nice deal, and confirming 5970P being the more desirable version.
As I explained before, I will leave these 5270 for future generations to appreciate what their ancestor (me) has done for them )
Wonderfull, enjoy it to the fullest!
Really inspires me to take my 5270 out of the bank again soon! ...
These blue dials are really nice and tempting too…
You should enjoy this more….glad I save me it from misery and loneliness lol.