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Hi,
I understand that the new offerings can let you thirsty, but they're not bad at all!
By the way, please let me try to answer:
Calatrava: I hope you've realized the 5159 calibre (5.25mm) is thicker than the 5153 calibre (3,3mm), so the case can't be the same! In fact i'm sure you know that! 
Of course you don't have to love, not even like the watch! Still for those who like the 5159 guilloche, they may like to see it on a more affordable watch, and indeed it helps create a family!
5960R: I'm not going to say it's just not molded, it's just because tou don't like pink gold I suppose. I don't like too much the 5960R either, but some seem to like it here, so the watch is good news for them!
5101R: yes we agree! And the watch is not bad at all (even if I still prefer the 5101P, but who cares).
5098: Yes we agree even more, that's the one I hope to see end of April (although I won't have saved the money for the end of April).
Nautilus: I let the women answer!
IMO they have a very high reputation, but not the one of a company that makes the news every year! The Seal is enough for me this year! Let's get the new calibres next year! Yes new calibres please! (we shall talk about that soon).
I hope I helped you find some peace!
Cheers
Dje
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Basel 2009: New Patek Philippe watches!
Here comes the time when we can discover the new Patek Philippe watches for 2009! We've heard many suppositions about a 5970P, or about a new in-house manual wind chronograph. Apparently we'll have to wait a little more! Added note from Dje: the 5970P is ...
Well, mixed feelings
No real new watches, here, but more an evolution of already exisiting watches. The " new " ten days is, to me, less appealing than the legendary 5100 with its special horns on each side of the case. The " new " WT in white metal is really nice, with a sup...
looks like rose gold is the metal of the moment....
and the new 5960 is absolutely beautiful, stunning...i have decided to sell my 5980 and buy this!! i think overall the new range of watches appear more sexier...i think Patek are right when they have mentioned Romantic.... R's Sid
Totally agree with you Sid...
I really like the look of the 5960R, and am even fond of the 5098R. I think my wife really likes the return of the Nautilus for ladies, as a sports watch. She was never a huge fan of the 24's.
Nicolas, Looks like RG is the metal of the moment :)
... but they did a something really nice for white metal lovers : 5130 et 5970 Honestly, were u waiting for a new model? Karim
Yep, an in house manual Wind Chrono, Karim.
And as for the 5130 in WG, the problem is still the same than with the YG...The engraved PP and Geneva on the bezel... Best, Nicolas
Me agrees with you Nicolas.
I feel a hint of Lange in the dial of the first piece post too. Cheers, -- Richard.
what's really new
I agree. Mainly this year it seems to be all about introducing the same watches as before in different metals. This makes sense when the economy is down, since it requires little investment for Patek to change the case metal. Eric von Schonberg
RE: "A 5980R would be surprising, but a 5102R why not! "
considering they came out this year with RG Aquanaut and 5960R...also they already make 5712R......why not 5980R ?? I'd say its very possible...we will see.
Hmmmm
IMHO, the dullest offerings in years... the 5970P is the star, but I'm not moved by it... I think the 5970G will be the eternal favorite. I've never really loved black dial dress watches... the hard contrast of the white windows and white print.... not fo...
The year of pink.
The new calatrava does look appealing, with a great new style for the 5960. But I have to agree that all these new models are simply variants of previous classics. A very insightful report Jerome nonetheless. Many thanks as always!
Which is the real 5101
I notice 3 pictures of the dial-side of the new 5101R, 2 have a serial number in the sub-second dial, one doesn't. I'm assuming the one without is a rendering, and they didn't bother rendering a bogus SN, or is it the other way around? A
Thanks for the report Dje!
The 5960R is my favorite. Look forward to your live pics in April! -MW
Total disappointment!!!!!
I call this a window-redressing. Getting same references in different metals and colours. Tuck Tuck. So no new calibers? Is Patek afraid of the economic meltdown? C'mon, show us the new in-house manula wound chrono! Larry
I thought the same thing Larry
Patek, perhaps, is wary of launching a fabulous innovative groundbreaking (uh, for Patek anyway) timepiece at this point in the economic history of mankind... save it for next year?? But who knows.
Not surprised at all.
PP is not immune to ecomony crisis. For the brand, it is a wise move to incur mnimal cost by merely changing the metal and the dial in their "new" range. Some will still say wow but not me. Regards Ling
The 5153J 38mm is the perfect gift for my daughter
I have been waiting for a watch like this for my 19 yr old girl. Round. 38 to 38.5mm. My daughter is slim and actually thin. Officer's case with a half hunter back. And for an "official" father's gift to her for making it to my "dream" medical school. She...
Congratulations to your daughter Bernard
Hi Bernard, I see a proud daddy there! Congratulations for the great work! Cheers Dje ps: a 5153 is deserved indeed!
I trust the medical doctors here to look after her with your wisdom of timee
The people here, and this includes those who don't post are like a large family or community of family friends at the least. There are an incredible number of doctors here. I am sure, that as she begins her new life in London, she will come across the wid...
Thanks much for sharing...
as noted by the others, it does seem that RG is the color of the moment. I wonder if this has to do with having the same complication in a lower price point to accommodate the economic slowdown as the sole reason for such a move? Or is Patek once again at...
Thanks for all the info.
I wonder were the 5960R will fit in in terms of pricing. Perhaps the reason increased the price for the 5960P so drastically was so that they could wedge this one just under it, but still above the 5980
Thanks, Jerome
for the post. Agree with Nicolas, for the most part, nothing new, just revamped. Don't care for the 5960R. Seems as if PP was unsure on how much lighter to make the dial. Love the dark gray on platinum. Perhaps this one should've had a cream dial that wou...
Thank you Jerome....
for sharing the info My overall feeling of the collection is a bit of a disappointment. The one I like is 5101R. 5970P is very predictable and , honestly, not that nice but ,obviously more rare. But , selfishly, I know I'm happy I won't need to swap my 59...
I'm not tempted byt he 5970P either
Hi, That won't change anything anyway! A grey dialed 5970P would have been more dangerous! Cheers Dje
Strangely, not that I can afford anyway in this economy.......
it feels a bit of an aching pain knowing that this is it for 5970......ending with a disappointing black dial 5970P that try to look modern with a white chrono hand (yucks). Imho, it works better with 5971P, looks classy. When I know that the Blue dial 59...
I'm more and more lurking at the 5970J!
Hi, At least on pictures I'm close to finding it more beautiful than the R. I keep an excellent impression from the watch on my wrist last year! Cheers Dje
Live impression from Basel
Back from the basel fair where I saw many nice watches. But believe me, if you see the new 5970P live...it's a mindblowing beauty!!! Lucky who will call this masterpiece his own
Some quick takeaways...
I too am a bit disapointed that no all-new chrono references were launched (nothing to stand in place of the non pt 5070), but I thought it was good of them to launch a Calatrava reference with styling cues of the much more expensive 5159. I was hoping th...
Interesting comments
Hi, Congratulations on getting a 5970P! You're possibly the first in that case! Any idea about when it could arrive? I know PP is generally fast to begin deliveries after the show. Your comments about the PP market are interesting. I have no clue if Asia ...
thanks Dje
Great pics and report. the 5960R is my favorite. And the grail is the 5101R. I saw the 5101P months ago but it didn't speak to me. The dial was not my cup of tea. But the 5101 really is gorgeous
nice watches,but...
It seems like patek philippe is just doing some tweaking to their current inventory. There seems to be no breakthrough design in this year's collection. Furthermore, it seems like ther'e cutting costs IMHO. Why would i say something like that? well, Calar...
Let me try to answer!
Hi, I understand that the new offerings can let you thirsty, but they're not bad at all! By the way, please let me try to answer: Calatrava: I hope you've realized the 5159 calibre (5.25mm) is thicker than the 5153 calibre (3,3mm), so the case can't be th...
Well modified year and makes sense
I understand the thinking in Patek. While their watches are beautiful, the company was similar to wall street stock in assuming that the prices will keep going up. The worst was the 5098P. I talked to a Patek AD and he said that he does not expect to sell...