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Personally I would have liked
less salmon dial again as too many being produced. I thought both the 5227 and 5396 are due a new movement with longer power reserve and more interesting dials. I’m not a fan of these hands like the 6119 either. What would have impressed me would have been a discontinuation of the 5227 and 5396 in favour of a 6227 and 6396 with the new movements to justify the insane year on year price increases. But maybe I’m just hard to please! 
I stick to vintage..
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The new 5227G
Patek Philippe released a new white gold variant of its Date & Sweep Seconds Officer's-style Calatrava : ref. 5227G-015 . credit: @chrono24 - photo captured by @nachoconde The first thing that is striking is the similarity in color and style to the pl...
Great comparison.
I am a big fan of the scalloped lugs. And even though it’s a minor difference the faceted dauphine hands really look great to me. Both watches are great additions to the catalogue in my opinion.
They definitely are,
but I think I might prefer the 5227 personally. I'll hold my judgement until I get to see it in real life. Best, Emmanuel
Thank you for that side by side comparison, Emmanuel.
I definitely prefer the crisp, more pure, date-less look of the 6196P !
I wanted to love it too,
but for whatever reason it didn't sing to me when I tried it on... 🤷🏽♂️ Best, Emmanuel
I have tried both in person
And whilst I was underwhelmed last year with the small seconds I really love the 5227 on my wrist. The proportions due to the lugs work much better for me and the dial looks so much better in its layout than with the small seconds. Actually this is crazy ...
This is very interesting because I think I would feel exactly the same way.
I do based on photos. I just have to manage to see the 5227 in person now... Best, Emmanuel
I really wanted to see this one on my watch outing last week...
...but they didn't have many of the new watches in yet. Good size and thinness with date. 38 would be better imho but no big deal. Same sentiment about the date. I do prefer the sharp dauphine hands. But overall a very compelling watch...
Yes, 38 mm would be even better and with a matching date disc.
Apart from that, this watch looks really very nice. Best, Emmanuel
Big fan of this release
Overall no date and center seconds would be king. Secondly would be dial matched date wheel. The case shape and railroad make it really charming.
I completely agree with you.
Even with these "to be/could be improved" elements, it is a very appealing release. Best, Emmanuel
I'm a huge fan of the 5227.
And I find this version absolutely desirable. I couldn't say which I prefer, this one or my 5227g-001. 🤔 ...
To used the old cliche, similar yet so different!
Calatrava perfection! Each with their majestic charm! While the 5227G is (for me at least) the more rugged and practical younger brother, the 6196P remains my favourite. Not because of the metal, but the simplicity to which heightens its romanticism.
I definitely understand your preference.
I’ll hold my judgement until I get to see the 5227… Best, Emmanuel
I prefer the 5227 compared to the 6196
I didn’t like the previous 5227s.. but for the salmon version, they make the bezel abit thicker.. I think it did wonders to the look.. The issue it I find the hands and markers to be really black.. it was quite jarring when I tried it..
Thank you for the detailed comparison, Emmanuel.
I also find it very appealing. If it were platinum, then I will probably pick it immediately 😅 Still a very handsome reference, particularly with the concave bezel and hidden hinged case back! Cheers, Henry
I’m you find it appealing too.
Platinum would be great even if weighty with the solid caseback. Best, Emmanuel
Excellent photographic comparative essay
The 5227 always felt "empty" at 12 with only one baton and the dauphine hands were too wide at the base. They have fixed both problems. Very appealing now to claim the classic Calatrava automatic mantle for this generation. I'm glad they didn't alter the ...
I completely agree with you,
including concerning the legibility of the date (I would just prefer color harmony to legibility). Best, Emmanuel
Great post and comparison! Like you I wanted to love the 6196P, but in person it fell flat. I found it to be a little dull. For me it needed something more
Eg Breguet numerals - something. On the other hand, in person, the 5227G did not disappoint. More interesting case and dial. Beautiful watch. Very appealing.
Thank you for sharing your hands-on impressions!
I'm really glad to learn that the 5227G did not disappoint. I'm looking forward to being able to try it on someday. Best, Emmanuel
Both are great Emmanuel ! Of If I am forced to choose, it would be the one with
no date because the dial is cleaner 😉
I completely understand this choice.
The only thing for me is that, even though I wanted to love the 6196, it didn't really appeal to me in real life. So, I'll be curious to try on the 5227 when I can. Best, Emmanuel
Personally I would have liked
less salmon dial again as too many being produced. I thought both the 5227 and 5396 are due a new movement with longer power reserve and more interesting dials. I’m not a fan of these hands like the 6119 either. What would have impressed me would have bee...
At this level of price, we have every reason to be "hard to please" as you say.
I completely understand your feelings, here, even if I personally still find the new 5227 and 5396 well done and quite appealing in their own way. But I'm probably less "hard to pease" ;-) Best, Emmanuel
Thanks Emmanuel for a great comparison!
Indeed, both beautiful watches. Last year, I thought I would love the 6196, which I did on paper, but it didn't sing to me on the wrist for some reason. And I've tried it on several times. The me 5227 looks amazing in pictures, perhaps a sort of younger l...
Same experience for me concerning the 6196.
I will be very interested in knowing your thoughts concerning the 5227 once you’ve tried it on! Have a great weekend. Best, Emmanuel