Patek Philippe

Can someone give me some information and opinion on these two watches? I am thinking about buying this as a gift for someone, but have not seen one in person as they are discontinued models. What are the differences between the two models and is it a good... 

Hi, I'm sorry but I really don't know if someone here has one in the family. We need to have more ladies reading us and participating. Cheers Dje

but the 4831 is very "blingy", even compared to some of the heavy diamond-set Twenty-4s. The triple row of diamonds on the bezel and the weird diamond bracelet ends make it VERY much a "look at my diamonds" watch, in my opinion. Maybe because the 4831s I'...  

here's a poor photo of a 'similar' watch..

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Hi, I've never seen those myself. Apparently they are slightly smaller than the Twenty Four, and much more classical. 4830 and 4831 and different by the jewel count and the strap versus bracelet. There are much more beautiful lady's watches in the current... 

Thank you for your inputs and the wonderul pictures. I personally prefer the Ellipse over the Twenty-4 because the style is much more classic. I am just concerned that the 23mm size (also taking into consideration the oval shape) would be too small.

i think the ellipse is much more well proportionate to the 24. 24 no doubt is a beautiful piece, but it seems more mass marketed (no offence). It seems like a very sellable design, and more importantly, for the younger generation. The ellipse which i show... 

Hello, My mother has a Patek Philippe watch and the bracelet it's too tight. If i want to buy a link for the watch how i will proceed? What is the price for one link ? Here is some details of the watch from the authenticity certificate: - Reference: 4830/...