patrick_y
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Specific Advice to 5109...
That's right! I remember you have some experience with buying used watches. A used 5110P if I recall correctly, I remember that one since that's one of my personal favorite references.
When you look at the 5109, you'll see the watch is kind of like a reverse picture frame, there are four corners that frame the dial that makes the bezel. Notice, where the corners meet, there is a line. A poorly polished version of this watch would have some flattening of this line. I've seen 5109 watches before in person. I don't sharply recall how sharp this line was. But basically, look for an even-ness among all four lines in the four corners.
And I thank you for not mentioning the name of seller of your piece as we wouldn't want the conversation to skew about transactions with that specific seller and whether or not we trust that specific seller.
Patek Philippe Gondolo 5109J-010
I stumbled across this Gondolo model and find it very interesting. Unfortunately, I couldn't find much information about the model and would be happy to learn some details that I should pay attention to when buying, especially about the original shape of ...
Very attractive art deco style !
Best of luck in finding out more info and let us know your decision.
It's not possible for most people to be able to tell if a case is polished or not using only photos...
Unless it's obviously polished. Most other information would just be a bad opinion. As most experts wouldn't give an expert judgment based off a photo. Thus, and with respect to our Terms of Conduct where we avoid discussing seller references for specific...
Lastly, don't buy it just because it's inexpensive!
Forgot to mention, a lot of people want an "inexpensive" Patek Philippe in their collection. Not saying that you want this. But don't be attracted to something just because it's inexpensive on the used market. Remember, always need to trust the seller fir...
Dear Patrick, thx for your comments and advice. Highly aprecciated 👍
I am a long time collector and know my due diligence. Maybe I was not clear enough with my questions. The watch on the pic is just an example for the model and is not subject to any discussion or question of mine. As I do not know the model well I am wond...
Specific Advice to 5109...
That's right! I remember you have some experience with buying used watches. A used 5110P if I recall correctly, I remember that one since that's one of my personal favorite references. When you look at the 5109, you'll see the watch is kind of like a reve...
Thx again, Patrick. This is exactly the info I was looking for.
When researching on watch models I haven’t handled or seen before I often feel a bit uncomfortable as I could not develop a „feeling“ if the case is good or not. A post below is referring to the condition of the hallmarks which also is an indication. And ...
Most welcome!
The hallmarks is definitely a good indication, but sometimes polishers polish just the top of the watch and don't polish the backside where the hallmarks are. The backsides don't get scratched since it's always in contact with one's wrist.
Some people say that I'm too polished...
...but it's gotten me pretty far in life : )
LOL! Very funny!
When are we meeting again? Let's get a little shine in while the weather is still good and before COVID starts up again (the disease seems to spread more in the winter time).
I am mostly around except for a brief stint in November...
...I have nothing new to show but my friend might...
Yes, the back is big and flat.
The backing is very big and flat. Which makes it less comfortable on the wrist for some.
Most Gondola" models...
Aren't this size. So if you have a smaller wrist, you may find it uncomfortable.
Hi Cayenne, the picture your are showing is a 5109R (Rose gold, with a yellowish dial).
The 5109J has a more off-white dial. It happens that I am the happy owner of this one: which I bought new in 2007 at my PP AD. I think it was discontinued around 2009. It has the manual wound 215PS movement, which is I think very reliable and without surp...
Hey montres1, it´s actually really a 5109J-010 shown at my PP dealer. The -010 dial variation is darker than the -001 variation which is more off-white. But you´re right, the case looks a bit bit reddish indeed.
I will have a personal look at the watch later this afternoon.
Hi my friend, Patrick and the others are right it is hard to tell from a photo, but you have to check if the angles are there, as it seems they are from your photo. The angles from the bezel and lugs. Plus the hallmarks on the back.
The angles have to be neat. If too rounded, they are polished.
Thx Nico, I have never had a 5109 in my hands (and actually didn´t even know the model exists). The more I´m thankful for the input of you guys.
I have never been a great fan of rectangular watches but recently I´ve worked myself a lot into Cartier watches. The 5109 strongly reminds me of the Tank design with its plain and simple lines. I´m curious to see it on my wrist and how large it really is,...
Has very wide lug width
which can be a little different in look but helps stabilize the watch on the wrist. I like the thinness of the watch.