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Sub-seconds placement
To me, it looks like the sub-seconds on the RD is closer to the bottom, or simply a larger subseconds. Either way, I think it's different. That's not to say that PP/Stern didn't make it though...
The chicken or the egg?
I remember when I bought my 6000G I was very surprised a few weeks later to discover a color sketch of an Oris with an uncanny resemblance. I had wondered which had come first, who inspired who. Now years later I was so pleased to see the actual watch on ...
Wow, that is uncanny...............
I shall be interested to see what the experts say!!
I don't know which one came first...
A very thought provoking question indeed. But a very nice watch! Always loved the Patek 5000 and 6000. The 6000 is among my favorite Calatravas.
Maybe none of them
Hi, Honestly the round watch with a date pointer is a very old and classic design, definitely not an Oris creation, and probably not a PP creation either! These one are not the original chicken, neither the original egg! Cheers Dje
JLC Master Moon also have that date...
... and it was produced back in the end of the 90s/early 00s. But these 2 that you've posted do resemble each other to a larger degree, not just the date, but also the rail-like circle inside the dial and the arabic numerals. Hmmm.... thought provoking......
Oops sorry... here's the FM..
Franck Muller: Still doesn't work! This message has been edited by Dje on 2009-10-08 21:57:42
Apologies.. try again...
Is it possible to edit posts here? Sorry, I'm such a noob.... thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp @0_mall/chuukotokei/cabinet/shohin07/img56013474.jpg '>...
Wow!!!!!!!! what gives................
Is this not a copy write issue? Here are another two that are quite similar in appearance....
Oh my God!!
There are really a number of near-identical "coincidences" out there! I'm not pointing the finger at any manufacture, because some of these designs might be derived from very classic vintage models that I have never seen or heard of. Say for example, the ...
The original PP deisgn was existing long before FM was created!
Hi, And we may find other brands that used this design pre war! Cheers Dje
first world war ..
argus valentine's pic: cheers This message has been edited by Dje on 2009-10-09 03:21:15...
Thanks Dje and Provents!
Solved one of the mysteries in my mind... I always thought that must be a classic design but I couldn't find any photos on the internet to prove it! Now I'm happy Thank you for sharing your knowledge!!
Dont forget what Patek used to and still do ..
.... looking at the Roger Dubuis and the Patek 5078 dial, quite right, they are very very similar if NOT identicial. MY thought is, Patek probably sold those dials to RD. Dont forget, the Stern family used to sell dials, thats their specialty, if i am cor...
Sub-seconds placement
To me, it looks like the sub-seconds on the RD is closer to the bottom, or simply a larger subseconds. Either way, I think it's different. That's not to say that PP/Stern didn't make it though...