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Thanks a lot for your report Ken
It was an interesting presentation by Patek. This complication was really "popularized" by Patek and we are able to find it now in several brands like Lange or Zenith, even Omega.
A sort of true speciality coming from Patek.
Amongst the Annual Calendars, my fav is without any doubt the 5205. I love it!
But I don't share your point of view about the Perpetual Calendar 5496P.
I find its dial unbalanced (the empty space at the bottom is too large) and I don't like to see the LY window cutting the date scale.
Anyway, it is a matter of taste!
Again, thanks a lot for your report!
Fx
Why PP annual calendar is good & beauty of PP case/ dial + some novelties pics
I attended a seminar sponsored by Patek Philippe Japan and Chronos Japan at The Hour Glass Ginza where the well known watch journalist of Japan, Mr. Hirota, gave the audience some enlightenment of how PP's annual calendars are different and thus better in...
Hi ken, great write up and report
Thank you for sharing. No doubt patek has many strengths in the watch making, that's why we love them so much. Cheers
Thanks for sharing Ken.
A nice reminder about Pateks legendary annual calenders. cheers fernando
Great write up
and thanks for going through the mechanics of the annual calendar mechanism. Truly there are many reasons to love our PPs, both inside and out
You can't beat German efficiency ...
as Lange has shown on this subject again ;-) ! But certainly, a true annual calendar from Patek is a must have in any serious collection. Really lovely, lovely watches! In your shown list: the WG 5396 for me, please. Many thanks for a great post. Regards ...
Thanks a lot for your report Ken
It was an interesting presentation by Patek. This complication was really "popularized" by Patek and we are able to find it now in several brands like Lange or Zenith, even Omega. A sort of true speciality coming from Patek. Amongst the Annual Calendars, ...
Nice report - on the 5146...
I think the metal bracelet on the 5146 makes all the difference - a real beauty. I only wish Patek allowed this as an option on more models. Thanks for the great report.
Thank you for a balanced report.
I really appreciate this kind of balanced report, discussing all the issues -good and not so good. It does not read read like a Patek Love Fest. Perhaps someday we will have a thread on discussing what we dont like about Pateks - i.e. constructive critici...
Thank you Ken-san!
I try to add some additional information with my poor English. I hope you’ll understand and enjoy. Though I’m not a Patek admire and sometimes critical to their productions (have written in Chronos Japan), still Patek makes excellent watches a...
great report!
it's those seemingly minor details--which your report brings to the fore--that distinguish one brand from the other. thanks for calling attn to those details--helps me appreciate PP. Jason
Thanks ken for your well balanced report.......
As you may remember the AC is one of my favourite complications, as it fit fits most day to day requirements.
Instead of 'paint' on dials, could it be another process?
KIH, Thanks for the report. Regarding the thin-ness of the 'paint' on the dials, could they be electroplating with certain salt solutions? That would achieve as 'thin' a coating or many different hues as you like, according to the current / exposure time ...
Thomas-san, thank you for your question. Yes electro plating.
I'll describe later... HIROTA This message has been edited by KIH on 2011-10-04 21:11:37
Hirota-san, I am not......
Hirota-san, I appreciate your explanations and await further knowledge. Unfortunately, I am not the famous Dr Thomas Mao But we may have met before, when I was a 'salaryman' in Tokyo: 2000 - 2001 and 2004 - 2006. Regards, MTF This message has been edited ...
very sorry.. confused...
MTF-san, sorry for that. And thank you for your great article on Chronos Japan. HIROTA
MTF-san, try to explain...
Again, I am very sorry MTF-san. I did not give detailed explanation in that seminar and I apologize to confuse you all. Now I try to explain about electro plating and some additional process in dial making… I hope do it well…. Now many dial have same maki...
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Covering lacquer has been thought to be better to have flatter surface. But Patek try to give relatively rough surface (looks sand blasted) on covering lacquer. The dial seems glossy if you see it squarely. But from an angle, you will notice that the surf...
Hirota-san, I think your English is good enough
... and your explanation makes sense to me. Thank you! Ken
Very clear technical description
Hirota-san, Arigatou-gozaimashita. The detailed description is very useful for me to understand 'subtle nuances'. As Hokugo-san said, your English is very good and certainly many quanta ahead of my Japanese! Shitsurei-shimasu, MTF
Thank You Ken!
Thank you Ken for this very nice report! Especially appreciated the detail in the mechanics of the Annual Calendar movement!
Very good presentation by Chronos and Hirota-san, thks Ken for the report
Even layman like me can appreciate. but I believe that AP and VC and Breguet also use forged casing btw, in most of their range. Please correct me if I am wrong. Best, Horo
Yes, Horo-san, you're right.
I'll try to explain the difarences later. Please wait for a while... HIROTA