the rubber strap and that grey dial in my opinion triumphs over the 116500LN with a black dial and bracelet. My personal preference however is the 116500 with the white dial which I fortunately now own but as my friend Kamal Rostov told me, the black dial and the 116519LN are more discreet and stealth. I can see his eye balls bulging out and his tongue sticking out with envy at the choices you have Joe!