As you already know we have quite an overlap in our Patek collections as we are both suckers for dark dials and white metal. I’m definitely a Patek and not a Rolex guy. However beginning of 2017 I bought the 116500LN Black Dial as my first Rolex (to my great surprise wait time was less than 1 month). I really have to admit it is a PERFECT beater for me, with the ceramic bezel. For a few month now I think a lot about adding the 116519LN in white gold, as I want to add a further piece with a rubber strap after the 5650G. But if I compare the price of the 116519LN with a 5164A which is roughly in the same price range, I think I still prefer the 5164A.. for sure it is more scratch sensitive but much more elegant from my point of view...