Patek Philippe

Well... I have been hanging out with no_frills way too much. I have been in search for a 5970J for about 3 months now. My search concluded today. I only found 3-4 5970J’s readily available and for sale in the world on this search. In contrast, I came across ~15 5970P's. If anyone wants a P let me know. Maybe I will be fortunate enough to add the P to my collection one day as well. I saw some good deals on pre-owned P. Many G’s and R’s were offered. I am not kidding. But for now the J is the latest addition!

I want to thank SteelerFan and VC for their help. It is really nice to add the old (5970) to the new (5270). And some J to my G... I am going to have to agree with hutchman, the 5270 is a more advanced and exact watch from case to movement. The 5270 represents the present and the future. The 5970 represents the last of the past. And the J is fitting to me because it is the most “classic” of the 5970 references.

About the 5970J… It debuted at Basel 2008. The reference was manufactured for 9 months. Distributed for roughly 12 months from what I am told. It was discontinued for the 5970P at Basel 2009. I confirmed with Patek that it was indeed the least produced 5970 by many. Is uses the Caliber CH 27-70Q movement by Lemania finished by Patek. The case is 40MM (truly it is 39mm)

I am truly blessed to be able to particpate in this hobby and own such great works of art.

And I was happy to have shared in the hunt!

The 5970J is most certainly a lovely addition your growing collection.

Wonderful pieces, congrats!  I couldn't decide between the two, but if I had to, I prefer the 5970 - the dial feels more balanced and I prefer the tachymeter scale on it.

thoughts like this: "Could this be the most charming version of the 5970?" come to my mind.

I am a white metal guy (most of the time) and probably it won´t fit to my style, but I think I really could love it

Thanks!

Oliver

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Glad to see you're enjoying this piece on the wrist.

Furthermore, it's good to see that you were able to find one in three months. Not an easy watch to find.

You added a rare bird to your collection.  Wear it proudly, and in good health.

I am not a yellow gold guy. But if i would get one, the 5970j and the 5131j and the Lange PLM tourby would be the only watch i would consider. This one looks so natural in yellow gold, the case size and dial work so well in YG.

I personally --over the years--have concluded that Patek perpetuals and perp chronos are particularly well suited to YG and YG brings out their classic/ historic design features the best. (at least the 3940 and 5970... ) Congrats... This message has been edited by Mostel on 2013-04-21 11:05:13

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Beautiful addition. Love the J on this model! Can't wait to see her soon! Enjoy.

I am starting to have to 'remember' the 5270 is not a 5970... I look at it and think, wait, that's not a 5970... oh yeah... it's a 5270. So I guess the differences that were 'controversial' are not registering as much visually anymore. I like the smoke-colored hands and markers a lot. Great pic This message has been edited by Mostel on 2013-04-21 12:08:35

Mostel,

I have had both together for a week. They are very different watches that have the same output of complications. The 5970 reminds me of the past. Everything about it says vintage or retro. The 5270 screams current and future. After reflecting quite a bit, the 5270 is a great evolution in the line of perp chrono's. If I had to keep only one, I would vote 5270 (again only a week with both). I love both and I am blessed to be able to own both.