Automotive

New Ferrari 12 Cilindri looks in-cohesive in my non-expert opinion. I do not have a Master of Fine Arts nor any deep work experience in the art world. Surely, the performance will be phenomenal. The engine is still naturally aspirated with approximately 8...  

But it will make no difference for buyers.

I agree that the name, and other Italian car model names, like Quattroporte, are a bit daft and yet they sound exotic to a native English speaker. If Aston Martin called one of their cars the "Two Door" they would be ridiculed by the UK motoring press. Bu... 

So true! Thank you for your straightforward yet totally on-point analysis. Especially to Americans - anything in Italian sounds great. I understand very little Italian - and yet I still like Puccini Operas. What Italian opera aria shall I listen to today?... 

...they would say, "La Macchina" (the machine) for 'Car.' Will we walk? No, we'll take the machine into town. I thought it amusing : )

I really don't understand why we Italians tend to give names to our cars that English native speakers will find almost impossble to pronounce correctly. Youtube is full of car contents where even car owners are completely incapable of pronouncing the name... 

Looks to me quite a bit line the Roma coupe. I don't think it is ugly, but it not beautiful to me either.

That as the first world men become more and more fat this seems to apply proportionally to their cars. Especially with Ferrari, Porsche and Aston imo; Lamborghini not that much

driving light-weight cars ;-)

Almost all of the people driving fancy cars (lots of Lamborghinis and Ferraris) are all very well fed kids from one country.

The new ones over the past decade or two sure look modern, and they surely measure well in a wind tunnel too. Am also sure all those onboard computers can assist even someone with minimal piloting talent to achieve ok lap times. But there's something insi... 

I really like the 575M, the 599, and the F12. 812 was a little edgy for me, but still beautiful. This one, I'm not sure I like so much. Shouldn't make too many judgments until I see it in person though.

Personally, was only able to enjoy a Euro-spec 308GTS QV for both public roadways and road course tracking for a few years until the engine needed a complete rebuild from tracking her )... Look at the subtle curves and lines and humps and... if you really...  

And I have to admit that I'm cheating too - I use the spray wax nowadays.

If you truly want to get 'intimate' with your car... caressing her every sensual curve is a good start

It's never been son hard from lack of use!

At least in pictures. In different livery will change the look for sure and I bet would be a stunner in all red or all black.

That's a "required in black" portion of the car.

I guess I'll just have to search for a manual 599 🤣

...I too believe it looks a little Ian Callum inspired (Aston Martin). Not that that is a bad thing.

And I have to admit that at my age 812 hp would probably lead to trouble

having said that I think ICE car design is played out…the future (like it or not) will belong to the conformities of EV design limitations…

EV effecting ICE car designs! I mostly thought the other direction, ICE influencing EV designs.

For me pinnacle modern Ferrari was the 458 Speciale. I may circle back and get one in the future but I promised my wife I would give car purchases a break. Plus I need to enjoy what I have before adding another.

Like a racehorse

Naturally aspiration is definitely a very emotional experience!

Ferrari engine.

They haven't made a bad one - I'm not a huge fan of the 456, but generally, I do like this front engine GT car formula.

... which looks interesting from above but possibly odd from the back (would need to see more pictures). The front looks a little like a fish with an open mouth. Other than that, it has nice, if slightly generic, modern sports car lines. Is this all due t... 

...we'll all get rejected and can console ourselves on this forum : )

I happen to like this design more than any other they have come up with over the past twenty odd years.... In my opinion, it is simple yet effective. It doesn't come across as trying too hard, which most of their styling has to me in modern times. I look ... 

I'm really curious to how the new DB12 drives. It looks so darn good. And the new Vantage - again, looks so darn good. The previous Vantage was interesting.

That the local SoCal dealers all have demonstration vehicles, so I'm sure I'll get to driving one this summer or fall.... My 'problem' is that once I've specced one the way I fancy it most, it nudges $350K before taxes, and it still doesn't have a V12 😑..... 

In my opinion, too much for a car that doesn't even have a V12. I wouldn't actually spend more than $300K on the V8 version, I don't think it computes otherwise....

But ... For that kind of money, it ought to have a V12 engine!! 😑

And the options are ridiculously expensive !! Especially if you opt for a specialty paint which can cost $20K on its own....

I'm waiting to see what happens before this winter, and then I'll make the most sensible emotional decision possible LoL 😁😊....

Sublima! 365 that steer and drive like a modern car with all the comfort u need. I hope for the spider, yes, that is of the famous tv series.

And all the black plasticky looking parts? Where are the flowing lines of the 458 and f12? Paint it grey, give me earplugs and I would mistake it for a Hyundai ioniq...

Is there a Ferrari or fancy car brand that you do like?

The 458 is probably the most beautiful car in recent memory for me...so I definitely don't have anything against Ferraris! If I got a recent Ferrari though, it would probably be the FF - I have a soft spot for quirky cars. I just can't stand the new trend... 

Personally I never liked 365 Daytona.

The rest is not for me