So I've been spending way too much time lately on IG but it's better for my wallet than going to watch boutiques. Yesterday, there was a little brouhaha that brewed up over a turtle automaton series released by Max Busser & Friends (MB&F). The pro...
Would make a good title. If they had given a nod to Mr. Pages, then that would have drawn interest to his work, making it a win for all, since they are not competing at price points, etc.
In my opinion, itโs not our problem to solve or our place to provoke. Pages made one, MB&F made ten, the designs are different, the legs are different, the singing bird animation ... etc. Cazalea
We hear about this scenario so often: (1) you see a watch you like and itโs made in a small qty and you buy it for various reasons; (2) another brand subsequently releases a similar style watch with a slight difference and itโs cheaper but more are made. ...
It is the reason why we are on Purists and not somewhere else. You are rising good questions. I have a lot of respect for Max and his team, I have a lot of respect for Raul. I know them both. I saw Raul's tortoise in March for the first time, I hope to se...
Nobody did anything wrong. Nobody stifled anyone else's creativity. Nobody infringed. If nobody infringed, we have no victim to protect. If we accuse MB&F for making something too close to Raul Pages' tortue, then we need to complain to Patek Philippe the...
What is different in this scenario is that MB&F have a stated mission and well-known history of working with independent watchmakers and honoring them and showing that it is all one big extended loose โfamilyโ. It is the MB&F unique marketing story that M...
Seeing your OP. After my initial gut reaction, though, my more lasting feeling is more similar to Patrick, Alex, and others... In brief - I take nothing away from Max and MB&F for doing what they did and how they did it. I would have given them brownie po...
and agree that MB&F officially does not owe Raul Pages anything. It is really just my hope for a very generous spirit from one small firm to another even smaller guy and the opportunity has already been lost.
Overall, I can say that the employees at MB&F have among the highest ethics within the watch industry I've seen. Their commitment and loyalty to their customers is one of the reasons why they have such a loyal cult following. Obviously, the innovative...
That is what I'm specifically advocating in theory. In this case, I think Raul Pages may be the only one. Not asking MB&F to go through the exhaustive list of dead artists/watchmakers or previous firms because they're not actively making the same type...
Jaquet Droz and Raul Pages. ... ๐ Seriously, did Pages advance the art or craft (besides using white metal and blue "shell") that MB&F should acknowledge it or him? (Serious, not ironic or loaded question, I really dont know.) Jaquet Droz was a significan...
Raul Pages appears to be a talented guy, but of course he is not in the league of the long-gone Jaquet Droz. I think Raul Pages piece is very strikingly modern and extremely different from the jewel-encrusted turtle automatons of the past. I don't think h...
yeah, I thought that comparo was a bit of a stretch... ๐ " too much to ask?" imho to ask that of someone else? yes. but to ask of oneself? absolutely not! ๐๐ cheers, TM
As a fan of automatons and having studied the history of automatons, I know that there are turtle/tortoise "tortue" automatons that date far back both of these. The example by Asprey is a fairly recent but beautiful example as I've personally seen some to...
horological history and not just one person/brand. Furthermore the Pages turtle opened up to show the mechanism whereas the MB&F Turtle features a singing bird so I think that makes them different enough. Just my 2c and I didn't see this much talk when Ne...