Beyond 8, the image became too difficult to make...
I personally think that each of these brands has done so much better and more attractive timepieces than these "hyped" ones...
That said, the RO started it all and, without a seconds hand, I tend to think that it remains a cornerstone. But I would like it better without the date.
I own a grey dial Alpine Eagle, but wear it only during summer (and I much prefer the grey dial to the blue one).
Best, Emmanuel