indignantdenial
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New Ingenieur is great.
As of June they let you add the genius Brogioli clasp to it instead of the butterfly...a tempting proposition.
Offered but Passed…
It’s beautiful, it fits perfectly. But must exercise patience. In 6-12 months the value proposition will be much stronger in my opinion… Have you ever been on the fence, and passed?? ...
New Ingenieur is great.
As of June they let you add the genius Brogioli clasp to it instead of the butterfly...a tempting proposition.
The white and black dial Ingenieur
Are all brushed bracelets . The aqua dial is polished in the middle. I know what you mean, but I’ve never had too much of an issue with polished center links
Hard to justify what pre owned are asking currently
Even more difficult at full MSRP. I can’t justify it
Good job passing it up to get a better deal on the secondary market.
Current RRP’s (of all watches) are way too high.
Passed on it too, for the exact same reasons.
It wears well and looks good though. Enjoy! ...
Not really.
I've never really been on the fence and passed. Never really been on the fence. Always felt strongly one way or another. If you're on the fence, then that means you don't like it enough!
Have you tried the Alpine Eagle yet?
The Alpine Eagle has a nicer movement for less money. And if you really want the REALLY NICE movement, the 96-series movement with Geneva Seal and Swan Neck regulator... That costs even more money but it's oh so worth it! ...
Yes, even a standard AE is a no brainer but it is not less money...
IWC Ingenieur steel is $11,700 Chopard Alpine Eagle 41 is $14,800 Chopard Alpine Eagle XPS is $24,300
I couldn’t believe the Ingenieur MSRP
When it was announced last year! My plan is to wait until pre owned prices decrease. Its not a matter of if, but when, they def will!
Maybe consider just getting a used Chopard Alpine Eagle then.
Although I see you got a GP recently. That'll probably satisfy the itch.
Oh it more than scratches the itch
The GP Laureato blue 38 mm has been a grail of mine for 2 years! GP case also fits my wrist much better than 41 mm AE
Oops! I thought the IWC was slightly more. My mistake!
Still, I would say the Chopard Alpine Eagle 41 has a nicer movement than the IWC and overall is well worth the $3100 premium.
No doubt and for the record...
The titanium version is $14,600.00 which is more in line with the regular AE. ...
What do you think of this Ti version?
Does it do anything for you as an alternative to the aqua / black / white dials? I’ll have to check it out in the metal soon. But based on pics alone, I find it rather flat , and much prefer the pop of color the green Ingenieur lends
Sorry, I haven't seen it in person...
It may be nice but at that asking price, I am sure I won't be impressed.
There is no contest between
This IWC movement and Chopard movement. Literally night and day in my eyes. Alas, the 41 mm AE will not fit my wrist! The Ingenieur on the other hand, fits perfectly
Too large for my wrist
And more than I want to spend, especially for that salmon dial pictured!. Thank you for your suggestion!
Thank you!
Haven't opened mine! Ironically, I sized a friend's for him just a few days ago!
Sorry, I wasn't clear.
A friend, who is also a reader on this site, also owns a Chopard Alpine Eagle XPS. Since I feel very comfortable with sizing this bracelet and confident I won't scratch anything, I helped him remove a link from his bracelet. And the ironic thing was that ...
Ahh. I didn't find it tricky at all. Just had to dig out a Bergeon 200 screwdriver.
I actually really like how this bracelet is made. One of my favorite parts about this watch! The movement being my absolute favorite. I'm starting to really like the standard Alpine Eagle for its dial design. First, I like how there's no small seconds int...
I love the standard AE as well, and would say my biggest surprized so far was how much I love the chrono version. The movement is excellent and looks great to me anyway. Of course the rate is stunning, within 2 sec/day, like my XPS
I could be wrong but I think the chrono balance wheel has small weight on the side (no screws but less visible) which you don’t find on the standard time only or the 8Hz for that matter…so they seem to have put great consideration into the movement even i...
The Chronograph movement is pretty cool!
The chronograph movement is a great modern movement. It's got a column wheel control system and is a little thicker, but this is very normal for a vertical clutch chronograph. A Vertical Clutch Chronograph has to be a little thicker, since the vertical cl...
I don't think it comes in a bracelet version yet.
I only see the titanium Alpine Eagle on a rubber strap. Maybe it's coming on a titanium soon? Or maybe you've been offered an off-the-menu item. The one I tried on was this one: REF. NUMBER: 298609-3008 I wasn't crazy about the watch. But that's just me. ...
How did this turn into a Chopard Alpine Eagle thread?
Aquaracer just wanted to discuss the Ingenieur...😂😂
I will check out the heritage chrono you mention. But the AE chrono I was reference too is the one you tried. I enjoy wearing my maritime chrono a lot so if I could have the same fit in titanium for me it would be interesting
Assuming indeed I could convince them to make the bracelet. I don’t like their rubber straps. As for the price I agree it’s a bit on the high side for sure
Perhaps, even with watches ?? 🙃
“The man that is rich, is the man who knows he has enough…”
Yes, very much on the fence now
Let’s see how the pre-owned prices are in 2025 for this same model , then I’ll revisit 👍🏻
I like it,
it sits well even for my small wrist...tried it last week. However, I can't justify the asking price....and as has been said,will wait for a substantial drop in the pre-owned market before acquiring it
I just bought this piece
Prices aftermarket will certainly be lower, but feels like fair value in the hand even at MSRP. Either way a lovely watch imho
Loving the watch
I am still in love with mine and I have no dissonance about the purchase. ...