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Overview of the 5170 chronograph
The Patek Philippe Chronograph ref. 5170, introduced in 2010 as a succesor to the iconic ref. 5070, was the first of the brand to feature a fully in-house caliber: the CH 29-535 PS.
The case measures 39.4 x 10.9 mm
Do you like this reference and which variant is your favorite?
My personal preference goes to the initial yellow gold/pulsometer variant because of its unique vintage vibe.
Best, Emmanuel
A/ REF. 5170J-001 (2010)
Roman numerals, baton hands, pulsometer scale
credit: @johnphilipgreen (1), @youreterrific1(2), @mastrolorenziorologi (3), The Watch Club London (4-7) & A Collected Man (8-9)
B/ REF. 5170J-010 BEYER EDITION (2010)
50 pieces limited edition commemorating the 250th Anniversary of Beyer Chronometrie, Zurich.
Tachymeter scale replaces pulsometer.
credit: @phillipsperpetual
C/ REF. 5170G-001 (2013)
Introduction of Breguet numerals, but the pulsometer and baton hands are retained.
credit: Monochrome
D/ REF. 5170G-010 (2015)
Removal of scale and introduction of leaf hands.
credit: 41 Watch (1-4) & Monochrome
E/ REF. 5170R-001 (2016)
credit: Monochrome (1-2) & Hodinkee
F/ REF. 5170R-010 (2016)
credit: Monochrome
G/ REF. 5170P-001 (2017)
Tachymeter scale, removal of minutes scale, diamond indexes and lumed dauphine hands.
credit: 41 Watch & Haute Time (last photo only)
BONUSES
1/ Evolution of the design
credit: Monochrome
credit: Hodinkee
3/ Comparison with various A. Lange & Söhne Chronographs
credit: Langepedia
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Overview of the 5170 chronograph
The Patek Philippe Chronograph ref. 5170 , introduced in 2010 as a succesor to the iconic ref. 5070, was the first of the brand to feature a fully in-house caliber : the CH 29-535 PS . The case measures 39.4 x 10.9 mm Do you like this reference and which ...
Yes, I like the 5170.
I have owned the 5170G-001, and 5170G-010 before. My favourites are 5170G-001 and 5170P-001.
I think I feel the same way.
The vintage vibe of the J, in particular, sings to me a lot.
I’m with you.
I like the J the most perhaps. Glad I have it in the collection. Best Gatsby
Lucky you! Such a beautiful piece.
Don't hesitate to share a photo with us. Best, Emmanuel
Here you go buddy
Enter text The first few photos were professionally taken by a friend. Best Gatsby ...
The movement shots included in the overview are out of this world.
My favorite is WG, Arabic numerals, no pulse scale, leaf hands. M4
Yes, the photographers have done an amazing job.
I understand your preference: very nice variant. Best, Emmanuel
Thanks Emmanuel for another interesting post !
My favorite is the P with diamond hour markers !
Of these I like only WG black dial option.
But Dato 1st Gen in platinum I like much more 😀
Superb post !!
Obviously I like this reference as I own the 5170 G. And I cannot stress enough that this is one of the most comfortable wearing chronographs due to the very slim 10.9mm thickness (for a chronograph) !!!
Lucky you!
Great reference indeed and the G is definitely a beautiful variant. Best, Emmanuel
As always, great post
First reference for me. I like that the indices are less prominent but they still manage to project elegance
For me one of the most beautiful watches of all times
My favorit is the P version as it has the most modern appeal and I love blue dails. Best, Martin ...
Great compilation of information/photos of the 5170!
Thank you for assembling this information. Very nicely done. The first time I saw a 5170 was in Qatar (Patek AD was located in the Lagoona Mall back then) and it was the J. I was so thoroughly impressed with it's classic beauty, slim handsome case, incred...
Your experience speaks volumes about the beauty and appeal of this wonderful J variant.
You are very lucky to own it. I love it. Best, Emmanuel
Not sure…
What always felt a tad odd about the reference to me is the placement of the subdials just a tad below the centerline of the watch. I find the effect less pronounced on the dark dials than the silver ones - hence find those more appealing 😊
You definitely have a point here.
Because of the more pronounced vintage vibe I still prefer the J, but I prefer the placement of the subdials of the CdV.
It's a great reference, quattro.
Wonderful movement and great on the wrist. I think I'm with you on the j (the light dial r is also nice in its austerity). The sub dials on the black dials seem over-painted to me somehow -- a shame, as I quite like the versions with the Breguet numerals....
Perhaps they should have made a circular pattern for these sub-dials.
But it might be the photos. Anyway, I'm glad you like the J too. Best, Emmanuel
Dies anyone has a Flügel on the production numbers of the different Models?
Thanks Emmauel for this nice thread. Best Martin
Sorry, the autocorrection!
I wanted to ask if anyone knows the production numbers. Best, Martin
I don't think the production numbers were ever disclosed.
The P is the one with the shortest production run, so I assume it's also the rarest. Best, Emmanuel
Yes I really like this reference. Especially the J and G
I think it’s quality or charm is that it feels harmonious where as the appeal of the 5070 lies in the many quirks- two different watches with different appeal. So the harmony of the J with a vintage vibe and G with black dial / no scale stand out to me as...
Your comments are enlightening;
I completely agree with what you say about attention to detail and the ability not to repeat lazily. I also agree with your pick of J and G/black dial. Thank you! Best, Emmanuel
Thanks for the fantastic review.
I generally prefer white metal. The 5170G-001 with the pulsation dial is a bit more interesting to me. It is also a strap monster and my go-to thanks to its versatility. Can't go wrong with any of the dial variants. ...
Great! Thanks for sharing your beautiful
white gold example: it looks wonderful. Best, Emmanuel
I voted with my wallet.
The 5170 is my all time favorite watch I’ve owned. As someone above stated, it’s an elegant strap monster! ...
Love this reference, but only with leaf hands...
...unfortunately it was not made in yellow gold with leaf hands...
Oh, Interesting.
I happen to dislike the leaf hands here: I much prefer the baton ones. New proof of the relativity of taste! Best, Emmanuel
I could live with the Beyer reference...
...but the Pulsation scale is useless to me and takes up too much dial space. Were I crazy rich I'd go with Platinum and diamond markers : ) Although rose gold is kind of perfect other than not being yellow gold...
The platinum variant is appealing,
but a bit too modern looking for me and I don’t like the lumed Dauphine hands.
Nice!
...and I agree about the hands...I prefer the leaf. I'm normally not a diamond guy but these are so well done I don't know that most people would notice. But Yellow gold with leaf hands and no pulse/tach scale around the dial would be perfect. In other wo...
It baffles me that they didn't release a J version with leaf and no scale...
...I had better work on being their best customer so they will do a unique piece for me... ...
Please send us some photos when you get this unique piece!
It might take a while, but we’ll be here waiting! ;-)
Hmmm
I struggled with this reference - I generally prefer leaf hands and double scales for classic chronos.. that combo wasn’t made! Haha.. Also I am still getting used to subdials below the 9-3 axis.. only the 1st gen datograph balances this perfectly with th...
The placement of the subdials isn’t ideal, I agree.
Reason why I prefer the Cormes de Vache. And the big date on the 1st gen Datograph makes a good balance indeed. But I still find the 5170J full of vintage vibe and charm, personally. Best, Emmanuel