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Assuming price was not a factor - From an overall aesthetics and wearability standpoint, I would go with 5970J. But if I were to focus on the super complication housed in a platinum case
clearly with the 2499 DNA, I might overlook the somewhat rather thick 5004 case and choose that. 5270J, a very nice watch, but in this group a distant 3rd.
Which one for you?
Battle of three Patek Philippe titans : Ref. 5270J-001 Perpetual Calendar Chronograph with caliber CH 29-535 PS Q - 41 x 12.8 x 49.5 mm case Ref. 5970J Perpetual Calendar Chronograph with caliber CH 27-70 Q - 40 x 13.3 x 46.4 mm case Ref. 5004P-021 Perpet...
5970 - 5004 - 5270
If the 5004 was a bit bigger that would be my first choice It's too thick for it's size
I've only been able to try on the 5204, not the 5004,
but yes the dimensions aren't ideal.
Yes please to an of 'em
But of all the Patek Perpetual Chronos, I have a soft spot for the 3970 (white metal, black dial, no diamonds, if I am allowed to be picky). And for my wrist the smaller size still works.
Hi Emmanuel, my preference in order of highest to lowest is
5004, 5970, 5270 based on my own taste of the movement, complication and rarity.
I completely understand your order of preference,
Gordon. Shape wise I also prefer 5004 but I find it very thick at 15 mm. Best, Emmanuel
All are impressive.
For me the 5270 is the winner. I like the lugs and dial layout. From a practical standpoint, when I was in the process of acquiring a PP PCC, it was the one in production. 5004 is fantastic in its own right, the pushers and crown make it less desirable to...
I also think that the 5270 has a lot for itself.
The only time when I was able to see 5270 and 5970 side by side I didnāt find them to be fundamentally different. Concerning the 5004, itās the thickness rather than the pushers or crown which bothers me. Best, Emmanuel
Both are wonderful references.
I was ably only once to see them side by side and I didnāt find them fundamentally different. They share a very similar appearance and feel. I wish you the best for your 5970 hunt! Best, Emmanuel
Display to size ratio wise the 5004, sadly I canāt unsee the small moment in the big case of the 5970, even if I love the Lemania heritage,
So for me itās the 5270( with the chin), due to the bigger month-day and cleaner overall look of the dial. But to be honest, for me personally, nothing beats the 3970. The 5270 family: Best, Zsolt. ...
I'm glad you speak in favour of the 5270:
I think it is underrated. And I fully understand why you even prefer the 3970, which is wonderful. Best, Emmanuel
I canāt make up my mind.
but i am not in market for one of them anyway. Best, Ashot
100% 100% 100%
5004 in any metal!!!! Did I say 5004?? The arabics. The split second. The history. The movement. The endearing size and so called āhamburgerā effect. Itās a quintessential Patek and one of the all time greats. The others are beautiful. I am fortunate enou...
Your dilemma.
I would gladly leave these two watches to anyone who is interested and I will go and try to find a 5100P or a 5105P or a 5101P. ...
Yours is quite the collection!
I completely understand your feeling concerning the 5004. It is quintessential Patek indeed and, to a certain extent, more full of charm and appeal than the 5970. Best, Emmanuel
Yes, please.
If I must choose, itās 5004, 5970 and 5270, in that order. In reality I would be ecstatic to own any of these. Or all of these š.
Yes, these are impressive and iconic pieces
and I understand your order of preference. Best, Emmanuel
Given the choice between the three
I would go with the platinum split seconds. Among other things I like the pump pushers for the chrono.
Any one of them would be fine with me.
All are grails. They have Pros and Cons. Can't be wrong with any. I have a soft spot for white metals, so 5004p if I must pick one.
Thank you for your feedback.
Judging these watches on photos or during a few try on sessions is one thing, but owning them and being able to really spend some time with them is something else. So, the "real" owner's feedback is very valuable. Best, Emmanuel
Considering their PT variants...
Since these have a cost, and I am a bit late. I feel 2 x 5270Ps is better than either a 5970P or a 5004P. I'll also take a cheaper 5204P versus a 5970P or a 5004P.
Assuming price was not a factor - From an overall aesthetics and wearability standpoint, I would go with 5970J. But if I were to focus on the super complication housed in a platinum case
clearly with the 2499 DNA, I might overlook the somewhat rather thick 5004 case and choose that. 5270J, a very nice watch, but in this group a distant 3rd.
I completely understand your hierarchy here.
Iāve never tried on a 5004, but Iāve tried on a 5204 and the thickness didnāt feel right on my wrist. Best, Emmanuel ...