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Dear Rishi,

 

I have been looking closely at the three references 5115, 5116 and 5119. While each has its charm, I wonder if I don’t prefer the 5116: I think the welded lugs would work better for me here than the case shape of 5115 with “integrated” lugs and crown guards. Doesn’t this sportier case shape work better on a watch like the 5110? I think it’s how I feel. Also, the longer Roman numerals and cleaner dial with no hours/minutes track is a little more coherent with the dressy aesthetic and hobnail bezel, imo. Last detail: with the 5116, you get to see the 215 caliber which is nicely displayed.
That said, I would have to see these watches in person to be sure about how I feel. Judging from photos only isn’t reliable. And of course your feeling might differ from mine.
I wish you the best for this tough choice.
Best, Emmanuel

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Choosing a calatrava....

 
By: rishi_77 : February 27th, 2026-00:20
Its never easy to choose or pick 1, as there are just so many references! I guess the way to go about it is to follow a flow chart approach, and be cognisant of the fact that not every detail you want, is carried by a single referrence. The 3796dj, althou...  

I like the patek hobnail bezels a lot too

 
By: m2 : February 27th, 2026-00:22
In the same price range preowned there are lots of enamel Breguet watches to consider as well. Food for thought.

Agreed...also good value for money!

 
By: rishi_77 : February 27th, 2026-14:34
But...I'm looking for that 1 calatrava first...just something extra special and romantic about patek on the wrist for me

Dear Rishi,

 
By: quattro : February 27th, 2026-05:33
I have been looking closely at the three references 5115, 5116 and 5119. While each has its charm, I wonder if I don’t prefer the 5116: I think the welded lugs would work better for me here than the case shape of 5115 with “integrated” lugs and crown guar... 

Aaah Emmanuel..your comments always provoke deep thoughts within me..

 
By: rishi_77 : February 27th, 2026-23:16
The point about the smaller Roman numerals, plus solid caseback are the negatives in my mind too. However, the hobnail bezel and crown guard, plus case to lug seamless flow is to me simply sexy. Even the side profile... Difficult choice...till now, I am h... 

The 5115 is a terrific piece. So very Patek but in a more modern case.

 
By: vitalsigns : February 27th, 2026-14:18
At 35mm, too small for me, but if you're looking at between 33-36mm, then it seems like a great option.

I would go for the 5116

 
By: COUNT DE MONET : February 27th, 2026-15:57
The 5116 r in particular is a very, very nice Calatrava. The 5115 is too much retro, as amanico also mentioned.

Its amazing how divided the opinions are.

 
By: rishi_77 : February 27th, 2026-23:09
The beauty of patek having so many permutations in its selections.... Anything about the enamel dial on the 5116 that you can comment on my dear Count ?

Dear Rishi, with the clear briefing that you mentioned i.e…

 
By: Mike H : February 28th, 2026-16:21
Hobnail bezel, no date, crown guards, smaller size Roman numerals… I believe no other ref ticks all boxes apart from 5115 😉 On top of that I believe the caliber 215PS fits better in the 5115 than in 5116 as the seconds subdial looks better balanced on the... 

Appreciate your comments Mike...

 
By: rishi_77 : March 1st, 2026-21:41
Letting all of this sink in...but as days go by, beginning to be clear that I really love that crown guard look Rishikesan

Many thanks Montres1..

 
By: rishi_77 : March 1st, 2026-21:43
Appreciate your reply. I too think its unique different calatrava yet has a modern touch on top of its traditional craftwork Rishikesan

Both very nice watches. Can’t go wrong with either one - but my clear choice would be 5115. Perfect combination of vintage aesthetic and modern elements. More sporty

 
By: patekova : March 1st, 2026-21:58
(with crown guard and desirable screw back case), versatile (dress up/dress down), more interesting and substantial looking case. And overall prefer it aesthetically.

Thank you my friend..

 
By: rishi_77 : March 2nd, 2026-00:17
I think your summary of thoughts echo mine as well. Something about the case design that I find so appealing. Of course, one can wish for other hypothetical add ons ie applied hour markers/applied breguet numerals...but its time I get something that doesn...