Patek Philippe

Respect . As Aretha Franklin sang: R - E - S - P - E - C - T ! When a brand, whatever it may be, creates a new shaped caliber , especially if it includes a major complication , my first feeling is one of respect . I'll be perfectly honest : aesthetically ...  

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even if their's a lot to be desired still... Best, Emmanuel

I never liked the aesthetic of the cubitus. It looks like a knock off of the nautilus to me 🤷‍♂️ Furthermore this horizontal blind slats looks the opposite of class and heirloom ownership. I’m more a VC guy

But how many square movements and, even more so, square perpetual calendar movements do you know? Respect. Best, Emmanuel

That will surely make someone happy 👍

And this modern aesthetic doesn't sing to me. Still, a new square perpetual calendar caliber: not a thing you see every day... Best, Emmanuel

Rather unlike PP, but the market likes sport watches. If steel, 38 mm and with a bracelet, I maybe could be convinced ....but not at post-retail prices!

Will they end up making this one in steel? Maybe but probably in a few years…

Being fair is essential, imo. Best, Emmanuel

But, to my knowledge, almost everything in a movement is round: the wheels, the barrel, the balance wheel, the rotor, etc. It's therefore impossible to place strategic components in the corners. I could be wrong, but it seems to me that the design of a sh... 

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The Cubitus has, overall, been worth of the criticism. However, I think with solid plates we would be sufficiently fooled to stop there and just say it looks better. The question is, did we apply the same standard of fact finding to all square shaped move... 

And, as I answered to ChetBaler, almost everything is round in a movement: wheels, rotor, balance, escapement, etc. So my guess is that the corners of a rectangular or square movement are almost never filled with components. Best, Emmanuel

But to me at first glance it looks very much like a round movement architecture with some square packaging applied on top (if one looks through the lattice like structure the content within appears organized in a way that you could have the same movement ... 

But as discussed above with ChetBaker and jmpTT, I think that the corners of a rectangular or square movement are almost never filled with components for a simple reason: most essential components of a movement are round. Wheels, balance, escapement, roto... 

But still the use of the real estate tends to be a bit different if you are designing it as a non-round movement only 🤷🏻‍♂️

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it isn’t my taste at all…

And I understand it, but I think it’s unfair. Indeed, as far as I know, everything is round in a movement: the wheels, the barrel, the balance, the rotor, etc. So it is impossible to place strategic components in the corners. I might be wrong of course (I... 

make a good portion of the movement visible. And they aren’t easy to achieve as far as I know because they tend to have a low winding efficiency compared to central rotor. Concerning the Cubitus, only thing I can say is that the 40 mm looked nice on my wr... 

But how many square perpetual calendar calibers do we know? Best, Emmanuel

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...or let high-precision machines and computers, maybe a touch of AI, do what it does best. Hand on heart, I was eyeing the Bell&Ross BR-3 (non-tourbillon). Nice modern design, 40mm x 9mm and 50m WP rated too. Let's see how this goes for PP. New machi...  

looks very nice and I like it better than the PpCubitus PC.

I made a new comparison post to push the conversation further: Horological meandering: Side By Side Comparison

I tried to continue our discussion with the following new post: Horological meandering: Side By Side Comparison Cheers, Emmanuel

No matter what patek does, ppl are going to hate the cubitus. Everyone who complained about the round movement in the original references, even though as we talked, there’s a historical precedent for this, isn’t jumping up and down bc now the movement per... 

I’ve tried on the 40 mm Cubitus and thought it was really nice. I don’t like the openwork aesthetic of this new model, but I respect the fact that they made the movement square and it’s the whole point of my post. Best, Emmanuel

I never had a problem with Cubitus.

When I tried on the 40 mm Cubitus I liked it. But since the beginning I regretted that PP had not taken the pain to make a shaped movement so I’m glad they’ve finally done one. Best, Emmanuel

please, check here: Horological meandering: Side By Side Comparison

Respect ! I must see it in the metal to pass my final jufdgement.😃

Aesthetically, not my taste at all, but at least they’ve shaped the movement! Best, Emmanuel

It’s just not my taste but it could be smaller, that’s for sure.. But is this movement really new? To me it’s a 240Q.. but what’s curious is the position of the calendar correctors are abit different from the 5740

check here: Horological meandering: Side By Side Comparison Best, Emmanuel

I agree they totally reworked the base plates.. from the back you can see a lot of the gears and wheels.. it’s actually very cool.. just that I am not into skeleton dials (with the sole exception of a the Zeitwerk)

I think PP could have done better here, but at least they took a step in the right direction. Best, Emmanuel

It looks half baked. Gerald Charles looked like they made a better shaped perpetual calendar for their new model. Cubitus as a whole feels like half baked. Anyways, i am not the market for the cubitus. I dont feel its “authentic”. But if they used the rec... 

I decided to make a new comparison post: Horological meandering: Side By Side Comparison Best, Emmanuel

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