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Our new member doesn't know where to put his trust just yet.
A beginner doesn't know who to trust because he doesn't know what questions to ask and he doesn't know how to verify the answers to the questions. He needs a little more experience. Hence, he doesn't know if he should trust this seller or not. He may not have enough knowledge to understand who to trust yet and he doesn't know what questions to ask, and even if he gets the questions answered, he might not know how to verify those answers. Used watches are a total minefield. Think a beginner lawyer who doesn't know how to cross examine a witness; the lawyer doesn't even know what questions to ask. And when the witness answers the question with an unexpected response, the lawyer who doesn't know how to pivot from an unexpected response. Lastly, the watch is almost definitely polished. The question more is if the watch is OVER polished.
Advice on 5110P condition (over polished?)
Hi everyone, This is my first post on the forum, and I’m hoping to get some advice on a 5110P watch that I’m considering buying. The seller has provided some pictures, but I apologize in advance for the low quality—I’m working on getting better ones. I’m ...
This might not be helpful.
The following is intended to be helpful. But it might not be helpful in the practical sense... First of all. Welcome to WatchProSite. Second. You are taking a big risk, and frankly put, you don't really know what you're doing. We all had to start somewher...
Bravo Patrick 👍 your thoughtful, detailed and excellent reply is Great Advice for
New Watch Lovers, should be a pinned post on Home. Welcome to the OP
Why thank you! Very kind of you to say so!
Yes. Big warm welcome to the OP (original poster).
Also, why are you raising the topic of the watch being overpolished?
Did something make you suspect it? Or have you just heard that you should stay away from overpolished watches? The 5110 is also not very easy to detect as is has no sharp edges and is very rounded from the beginning.
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Ditto what VintageCollector stated. Sometimes it's really difficult to tell an over polished 5110, being all convex and rounded surfaces with few if any sharper angles. Let's say I was an inexperienced polisher. I would have removed the strap from the lug...
Great post Patrick, congrats!
This could be a permanent clause for a beginners guide to watch shopping.
That's very generous!
I would say beginners might want to start at the authorized dealer. Yes, they may be paying a premium, but you need to gain some experience before buying used watches. I've been sold so many "dubious" watches - some were outright frauds. Funny thing, many...
Thank you all
Thank you all for the excellent suggestions, especially Patrick for the valuable information and advice. I’m planning to travel tomorrow to see the watch in person. I don't have any particular concerns about the price or the seller; it's more about my lac...
Hopefully the travel isn't too far away.
Remember to look at the travel time and costs as a sunk cost! Good luck and we all wish you well!
Our new member doesn't know where to put his trust just yet.
A beginner doesn't know who to trust because he doesn't know what questions to ask and he doesn't know how to verify the answers to the questions. He needs a little more experience. Hence, he doesn't know if he should trust this seller or not. He may not ...
Good point! That's a definite possibility! Maybe he isn't a beginner!
And unfortunately we're very experienced Amanico... We've both been cheated many times - often by auction houses. Antiquorum sold me a Lange (that wasn't a Lange), but when I took it to Lange for restoration, they opened the watch and we both said at the ...
Shocking.. an antique Lange?
I can’t imagine them making such a mistake on a modern Lange
Yes, it was an antique.
But there was no excuse for the mistake. The movement clearly did not say Lange on it. Did they even read the name printed on the movement??? Or did they just take the consignor's word on everything? Just a lot of shoddy work. And they're unfortunately no...
I learnt all my lawyerin from Matlock 😋😇
The Original one of course Pic Source: Google Images 😊 ...
Yes Sir
She is a good actress and I should be open minded about it but Matlock 1.0 was a Classic, the next thing you know they will rehash Murder She Wrote 😁😇
Oh wow!
Kathy Bates! It'll probably be good. But Matlock 1.0 is a classic. A wonderful classic. I ought to watch it all again. I really liked Matlock 1.0. Thanks for sharing this detail!
Welcome to the Forum. It's a wonderful place!
Agree with all of the above. If a watch comes from Chrono24 where the money is held in escrow waiting your approval, you're safe. Having said that, if I were to buy one from there it would be local, i.e. the U.S. for me. And since business is based on the...
I can certainly understand and appreciate your seeking as much knowledge and input as possible in trying to make the right decision for yourself. .
I suggest the following approach: Do your due diligence about the watch. Due your due diligence about the seller. Due your due diligence about the buying/return process if you are not satisfied with the watch. After all that, if you are still in doubt, pa...
Welcome
The case design of the 5110 doesn’t have a lot of sharp lines (not like a 5970/5070) so it’s harder to spot overpolishing.. also the case is in platinum, which is harder to overpolish.. Given these 2 factors I won’t worry too much about it But I would rea...
Hard to tell on low quality photos
On this particular model, besides checking the 4 lugs, I would check the inner edge of the lugs: As well as the « flat surface between the case and the bezel: And the flat surface on the bezel around the crystal. Those 2 last are areas that I have seen di...
Thanks, this is very helpful..
I’ll post some pictures tomorrow morning when I’m at the seller, it would be great to have your perspective given your previous experience 😊
Yes! I was trying to allude to this...
The inner lug doesn't really get scratched. Thus, it should never be heavily polished. But if it is, and you see the inner lug isn't quite straight, that could be the sign of an inexperienced polisher. Good advice Dms!