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The watch was visible to some.
I was in a group of people who had the opportunity to see it and we were not the only ones.
Question is: what is the interest to show a watch which is not completed?
The answer is easy: one full year is required to produce one single Grande Complication. So what do you do? Do you wait for one more year or months before showing it to your potential clients and so losing one more year before the first delivery ? The sooner, the better here. And moreover, obviously, the Grande Complication has also a big communication role in Lange strategy.
Silly? Absolutely not.
Lange is maybe the brand which unveils the prototypes which are the closest to the final version. If they decided to do something different with this very special watch, maybe there are good reasons.
Fx
To make you wait for the reports: the 2013 novelties wristshots!
I know that you are eagerly waiting for the reports to discover with more details the novelties. I'm just back from Geneva today with thousands of pictures to sort, to edit etc... I propose you as a teaser my collection of wristshots of the 2013 novelties...
Agreed that for once, I found the 2013 collection very interesting.
Lange was one of thev most interesting brand this year. The Grande Lange One, with the grey black dial, is a asuperb watch, as well as the 1815 QP Rattrapante, which is one of the winners, in my book. Not found of the Grande Complication as it is too big,...
Grand lange 1 black for me... The PC double split is a failure
on a visual point of view. Nice moon phase but that's it. The dial has nothing really attractive. Maybe if they'd put the big date below "12". Don't know, just nothing really special about that dial, and it feels overcharged, but in a cold way. If only we...
Oooopps.... Got to retract. Just saw live shots
the double split PC is really stunning! How a pics can cheat us. I suppose that in the metal it must be even nicer
Indeed: the p annual calendar
and the 1815 up and down are particularly nice. The "real" novelties are for the prestige (the grande comp) and to fill the offering (1815 split) on the high end spectrum. Nice is that there are quite some offerings also for the wider audience as the gran...
Why was it necessary to show something in the center of the booth ...
that is not ready - the Grand (or shall we call it Huge ) Complication ? Was it 50mm?! Would have been impressed if it would be wearable. The 1815 Rattrapante PC looks interesting - at least from what I could see in the showcase outside the booth.
SIHH is a trade show...
They are showing products to dealers, primarily (yes there is some public press, but that isn't the focus). I can see the rationale of showing a work in progress, in that context. Hopefully it won't take 4 years to finish, a la the JLC Mega Sonnerie.
This perpetual claendar split, is the winner of SIHH 2013 imho
an absolute marvel. Thank you FX for this shots, eager to see your reports ! From the different coverage I think Lange has done a great SIHH 2013 along with JLC, and Richard Mille. I also keep in mind Parmigiani with a beautiful Toric cathedral minute rep...
Lange did have a prototype of the grand complication
and it sounded wonderful. They kept this watch in a special room above the main exhibits, and it could not be handled or photographed. But what a tour de force. And even at 1.9M euro and 50 mm, there apparently is a line to be in position to get one of th...
then it's silly...
I am sorry but what's the point of having a prototype and not showing it?
Should have been presented next year then...
Doing something like that, is really damaging the image for me. It reminds me JLC which is quite bad when you want to compete with Patek or Vacheron. That said, I think Lange had a good SIHH overall with nice novelties. cheers Francois
The watch was visible to some.
I was in a group of people who had the opportunity to see it and we were not the only ones. Question is: what is the interest to show a watch which is not completed? The answer is easy: one full year is required to produce one single Grande Complication. ...
you don't lose one year before delivery.
You just deliver it when the first is ready, that's called honesty , towards the customer and the people you give the communication. You know that such a complication can need a lot of time to be fully working. If I didn't expect great things of Lange I w...
No.
Your way of thinking is right for a normal watch but with this kind of watch we are out of the box. First of all, you can trust Lange: if they present the watch, it will work. Second point, only 6 will be produced. In the meantime, you need to choose the ...
I can't imagine
choosing 6 collectors. I feel for the people in charge of this for sure. Even the 200, 100, 30 and 15 piece LE's were hard I am sure. 6 people?!?!?! That will be very difficult. What a great position for Lange to have more than 6 that will spend that kind...
Process of Choosing
Your explanation of the rationale behind presenting the GC is very sound and I agree Fx. My question now is how the Lange team will decide who the lucky 6 will be (and in which order?) Frequent posters here have stated before that Lange does not play the ...
Did we ever see a watch with ...
missing parts at SIHH, so far? Still think it was too early.
What I meant ...
from Lange. I am aware that there have been "proto's" like this from others.
Sorry, but if the proto is not working, I don't see the point to unveil it.
That is not very serious, and it is not what I expected from a brand such as Lange. IF the proto was not working. I mean that we don't expect Lange to unveil a definitve watch. There may be some aesthetical and mechanical changes on the definitive watch ,...
The watch was running and striking.
I would like at this stage to kill a false idea because I start to read some strange comments which surprise me a lot. Lange didn't show an empty case: the watch was running and was striking. Even the foudroyante was running. The watch was NOT completed, ...
Thanks FX...
I await your detailed reports...Especially for the 1815 Auf und Ab ;-) Best, -- Richard.
I think even more: 11 hands ...
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True, Moritz! Thanks for pointing it out. :-)
Think I like it even better now. ;) Marcelo