Patek Philippe

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Very similar.

If we had a quartz Nautilus... we could probably match supply with demand... at staggering margins. The dreaded watchmaker is not needed (nearly) and the desperate SS customer gets something that says Patek on it for his golf buddies to glance at... haha.... 

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Don't forget the quick change bracelet/strap.

for the simple reason, I am used to the finishing and quality of the AP Royal Oak from the 70s, 90s and 2000s, I like tool watches too, where the finishing is not the raison d'etre. So I did keep that in mind when I went to buy it but couldn't pull the tr... 

I would put a santos' timekeeping way over those APs any day. Also different tiers, but the other way! Hopefully, AP has corrected this with the new movements out recently.

So I wouldn't know how their newer pieces are doing, I went down the GS/Seiko and AHCI Rabbit Hole after that phase in the journey, I did have friends who bought the newer stuff, when I saw the the 40th Anniversary 15202ST and compared it with my 5402s, A... 

For me it is very clear and obvious that the way and style of production is very different between the pieces made in the 70s upto the 2000s and after 2009. If you compare even the 90s Jubilee pieces or regular 15202 production subsequently with the post ... 

Cartier has quick change for strap / bracelet. What does Patek Philippe bring to the table?

Or vice versa

You can see the first link curves differently and there's a much stronger taper on the Cubitus. As for it fitting, it might, but it's definitely not the same bracelet.

When Thierry said he'd cancel the Nautilus, I interpreted that he would cancel the 5711 and come out with a new 5711 replacement, which was the 5811. Could he have meant that? Or did he actually say he was going to cancel the entire Nautilus collection? B... 

In the picture above, the size looks about the same between the 5821 and the 5811. But the 5821 measures 45mm between 10-4 while the Nautilus is 41mm between 10-4. Are my eyes deceiving me or is the Cubitus really much larger than the 5811? I am quite con... 

30m WR which is much inferior to the Nautilus and hard to explain and also round movement in a square case, I thought square movements for square cases were true luxury.

But actually 30m.

30m will mean able to go that far underwater. No more 30m WR, can't wash my hands!!!

I just checked 5811, 5712, etc So are the dress watches. I can’t get my head around that. Those are supposed to be “true” 30m - but is that the case for the full collection?

An even uglier nautilus?

And I usually like a cube shaped watch!

Yes it’s a new movement but doesn’t even fit the case properly and not square - seems pretty lazy doesn’t it.

It is very clear. The watch on the right is easier to look at versus the left. Round shapes have a softer look and more commonly accepted. Rectangular shapes take a lot more time to get used to. Personally only when you have the history, provenance and a ... 

5712 even more. For me the new models won’t replace the OG recipe.

Why the buzz of a new line aimed at a new and younger audience when all you do is throw out a derivative of a proven concept? When the Aquanaut was initially released it was not given a separate line within the collection, it was part of the Nautilus line... 

I know I am in a minority here but the design of the Nautilus or for that matter every Gerald Genta designed watch (Royal Oak included) has never appealed to me. The design of the Cubitus is definitely an improvement but being a square watch, I wish it wa... 

I can see that the nautilus line was getting a bit passé and overused, this new Cubitus line looks fresh and modern now. I still haven’t seen one in the flesh but I like what I see. I can see that slowly this line will replace the nautilus. So I’m with yo... 

She also doesn't like the Royal Oakitus.

seen and worn in the metal first, meaning photos don't do it justice.

But then so does the offshore for a lot of people and the Richard Mille. I guess that’s the market it’s aimed at

asked my friend, he thought it fitted well and commented that I need to see it in the metal ! LOL !

Contrary to the generally rather negative feedback on social media, I don’t find the new product line so bad, and the case shape and geometry quite appealing. If I could choose between the two, I would go for the Nautilus though.

Please delete these two I was trying to just make one 🤣🤣🤣🤣

about this new line interests me. Too big- don’t like a cube/squared watch- movement in a square case. I was so excited to be blown away as I have owned every single part of the pp collection- except the rare handcraft pieces. Even have an ellipse,two lad...