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Ugh- very sad and disappointed ☹️ nothing
about this new line interests me. Too big- don’t like a cube/squared watch- movement in a square case. I was so excited to be blown away as I have owned every single part of the pp collection- except the rare handcraft pieces. Even have an ellipse,two ladies pieces and an MR 😊. I really and sadly have to say- I think this is truly terrible decision by PP and fumbled this design badly ☹️. Oh and Chewbacca- I agree- everyone can and should be able to voice and have their own opinion 👍. PS. Look at collectibility or someone else here that showed the 5822A next to the 5711A HUGE size difference. Comparing it with the 5811 should be explained better because two good friends I know said the new line is terribly huge on their 16.25 and 16.5 wrists 🤷
I guess they calculated--
If we had a quartz Nautilus... we could probably match supply with demand... at staggering margins. The dreaded watchmaker is not needed (nearly) and the desperate SS customer gets something that says Patek on it for his golf buddies to glance at... haha....
Honestly, the Santos has been a homerun for Cartier.
Don't forget the quick change bracelet/strap.
I am a huge fan of the Santos Design but everytime I went to the Cartier Boutique to buy one, I would change my mind.....
for the simple reason, I am used to the finishing and quality of the AP Royal Oak from the 70s, 90s and 2000s, I like tool watches too, where the finishing is not the raison d'etre. So I did keep that in mind when I went to buy it but couldn't pull the tr...
That's fair, you're attuned to a different tier of watchmaking.
I would put a santos' timekeeping way over those APs any day. Also different tiers, but the other way! Hopefully, AP has corrected this with the new movements out recently.
Haven't been to the AP Boutique since 2008....
So I wouldn't know how their newer pieces are doing, I went down the GS/Seiko and AHCI Rabbit Hole after that phase in the journey, I did have friends who bought the newer stuff, when I saw the the 40th Anniversary 15202ST and compared it with my 5402s, A...
I would say compare the two and form your own opinion
For me it is very clear and obvious that the way and style of production is very different between the pieces made in the 70s upto the 2000s and after 2009. If you compare even the 90s Jubilee pieces or regular 15202 production subsequently with the post ...
Is PP using screws on the Nautilus bracelet for size adjustment like Rolex does, they did originally.
Cartier has quick change for strap / bracelet. What does Patek Philippe bring to the table?
Definitely two separate bracelets.
You can see the first link curves differently and there's a much stronger taper on the Cubitus. As for it fitting, it might, but it's definitely not the same bracelet.
When Thierry said cancel Nautilus...
When Thierry said he'd cancel the Nautilus, I interpreted that he would cancel the 5711 and come out with a new 5711 replacement, which was the 5811. Could he have meant that? Or did he actually say he was going to cancel the entire Nautilus collection? B...
Size difference between Cubitus 5821 and Nautilus 5811
In the picture above, the size looks about the same between the 5821 and the 5811. But the 5821 measures 45mm between 10-4 while the Nautilus is 41mm between 10-4. Are my eyes deceiving me or is the Cubitus really much larger than the 5811? I am quite con...
2 surprises for me
30m WR which is much inferior to the Nautilus and hard to explain and also round movement in a square case, I thought square movements for square cases were true luxury.
Still? Cool! Patek is redoing their way of accounting for WR.
30m will mean able to go that far underwater. No more 30m WR, can't wash my hands!!!
Nautilus are now 30m
I just checked 5811, 5712, etc So are the dress watches. I can’t get my head around that. Those are supposed to be “true” 30m - but is that the case for the full collection?
Like putting 26 inch rims on a wheelie bin..
Yes it’s a new movement but doesn’t even fit the case properly and not square - seems pretty lazy doesn’t it.
Thanks for the photo Miranda
It is very clear. The watch on the right is easier to look at versus the left. Round shapes have a softer look and more commonly accepted. Rectangular shapes take a lot more time to get used to. Personally only when you have the history, provenance and a ...
I dream of a 5711.
5712 even more. For me the new models won’t replace the OG recipe.
Fanfare
Why the buzz of a new line aimed at a new and younger audience when all you do is throw out a derivative of a proven concept? When the Aquanaut was initially released it was not given a separate line within the collection, it was part of the Nautilus line...
For me it is a win hands down for the Cubitus!
I know I am in a minority here but the design of the Nautilus or for that matter every Gerald Genta designed watch (Royal Oak included) has never appealed to me. The design of the Cubitus is definitely an improvement but being a square watch, I wish it wa...
When I see the two side by side
I can see that the nautilus line was getting a bit passé and overused, this new Cubitus line looks fresh and modern now. I still haven’t seen one in the flesh but I like what I see. I can see that slowly this line will replace the nautilus. So I’m with yo...
My wife finds the cubitus superitus as well.
She also doesn't like the Royal Oakitus.
My friend in Singapore tried it on and said that the Cubitus line needs to be
seen and worn in the metal first, meaning photos don't do it justice.
It looks like it will be pretty massive and ungainly on the wrist
But then so does the offshore for a lot of people and the Richard Mille. I guess that’s the market it’s aimed at
Interesting part is that another person took a photo of my friend wearing the 5822P and said it was too big for the wrist. However, when I
asked my friend, he thought it fitted well and commented that I need to see it in the metal ! LOL !
Nice side to side comparison
Contrary to the generally rather negative feedback on social media, I don’t find the new product line so bad, and the case shape and geometry quite appealing. If I could choose between the two, I would go for the Nautilus though.
Ugh- very sad and disappointed ☹️ nothing
about this new line interests me. Too big- don’t like a cube/squared watch- movement in a square case. I was so excited to be blown away as I have owned every single part of the pp collection- except the rare handcraft pieces. Even have an ellipse,two lad...