patekova
1823
Emmanuel, thanks for your post on this not so popular but I think beautiful reference. For me it has a much more interesting case and dial than 3940/5140.
Whether one prefers the lacquered ivory dial or the charming blue, the Breguet numerals IMO bring this watch to the highest aesthetic level of current Patek perpetuals. And at 39mm, quite slim and housing the legendary 240Q movement, what’s there not to like about this watch, yet ….
While it is unlikely I will ever own one, I would be quite happy to have one my wrist, in either the R or G version.
Best, Patekova
Patek Philippe Perpetual Calendar ref. 5327
Introduced in 2016 , Patek Philippe's Perpetual Calendar ref. 5327 has a 39 x 9,71 mm case and is powered by micro rotor caliber 240 Q. Leaf hands , Breguet numerals , scalloped lugs ... many elements should make it popular and sought after, but it doesn'...
I must say that the more I've been looking at the photos
the more I've been liking this model. Have a great weekend. Best, Emmanuel
Lovely post !
The WG version is my favorite current PP. wonder if they will make a p🤔
Thank you!
They could indeed make a Pt variant someday. Have a great weekend. Best, Emmanuel
But it's too small for this upsized case...
...which is why the Breguet numerals were used to 'hide' this...
Gorgeous but
The pics sure make it look more like a 42/43mm than the 39mm advertised. As pictured, it almost looks too big and busy too quite work for me. I'm so close to loving it, but it's just off a little.
It might just be the photos.
I definitely would have to see one in person. My personal watches are 38.5 and 40 mm, so 39 mm should normally work well for me. Have a great weekend. Best, Emmanuel
Interesting idea, but I'm sure I feel the same way.
It seems to me that the choice of a 39 mm case was made in order to keep the 3 & 9, but I might be wrong. Have a great weekend. Best, Emmanuel
Emmanuel, thanks for your post on this not so popular but I think beautiful reference. For me it has a much more interesting case and dial than 3940/5140.
Whether one prefers the lacquered ivory dial or the charming blue, the Breguet numerals IMO bring this watch to the highest aesthetic level of current Patek perpetuals. And at 39mm, quite slim and housing the legendary 240Q movement, what’s there not to l...
Yes, what's not to love here: everything seems absolutely right.
My favorite would be the R (or maybe the J). Anyway, now I regret not to have asked to try this model on during my last visit to the PP Salon: definitely on my list for the next visit. Have a great weekend. Best, Emmanuel
A wise fella once said
Rose gold cream dial — that’s the quintessential Patek setup. In the long run the rose gold version will be my winner. Best Gatsby
Yes, quintessential, I think you're very right.
I would love to be able to compare the R and the J, though. Maybe someday. Have a great weekend. Best, Emmanuel
In case of platinum, I would definitely acquire the case.
It has full of Patek DNA, but no one looks at it… Shame!
I indeed blame myself for having paid insufficient attention to this model.
A Pt variant might come someday, not impossible at all. Even if, this model being a sleeper, I don't know if PP is focusing their attention on it. Have a great weekend. Best, Emmanuel
I understand that, 39 mm might be a little large indeed.
My watches are 38.5 and 40 mm, though, and they fit my wrist perfectly. I definitely will have to try this one on, someday. Have a great weekend. Best, Emmanuel
Yes, but strangely I wasn’t attracted in the first place.
Have a nice weekend. Best, Emmanuel
A beautiful PC with beautiful
Brequet numerals ! 👍 For me, the dial is a bit too busy 😅 but that is just my 2 cents
I think you point exactly what bothers me:
the Breguet numerals would be wonderful without the PC sub registers. And with these sub registers, baton indexes would let the dial breath much more freely. Have a nice weekend. Best, Emmanuel
Patek 5140, or 5550P
Yes, the Breguet numbers are the reason behind why Patek did enlarge the diameter without changing the movement. Should you need baton indices, it would be better to look at Patek 5140, especially the blue one in platinum. Besides, Patek 5550P is another ...
Thank you for confirming my feeling about the link
between the 39mm case and the Breguet numerals. And thank you for your recommendations: 5140 and 5550 are indeed stunning references. Best, Emmanuel
I would agree, but that would have meant
abandoning the Breguet numerals (at least at 3 and 9 o'clock), don't you think so (the caliber having the size it has)? Best, Emmanuel
Yes, I agree, but it looks much better, have a look at these special pie
Credit Robert Maron Credit European Watch Co ...
You’re right, it looks much better
without the 3, 5, 7 and 9. I hadn’t thought of making such a comparison but it really points what feels a little strange with the 5327. Thank you!
You are right. Much better indeed.
Just imagine they used the original/smaller font on these versions. Then more room on the subdials and no squished 27-5 in the date dial. Would have been perfect for my taste 😁
39mm should be perfect
What went wrong here is the thinner bezel.. thus it makes the watch look disproportionately large.. it happened to the 1815 too, when ALS reduced the size from 40 to 38.5.. Thinning out the bezel can really ruin the look in my opinion. Another gripe is th...
I think you have a point here.
Thanks for pointing the thinner bezel as part of what makes this model looking a bit odd. Best, Emmanuel
I wanted to love this, but the proportions are off...
...when they made the case bigger but kept the smaller movement, they needed to get creative by 'hiding' it with Breguet numerals around the outside of the dial. It has never looked as cohesive as a 3940 or even 5140 to me...
I’m afraid you’re right.
I find it quite strange how this reference makes me feel because on paper everything seems right and, as you say, one wants to love it, but something feels odd nonetheless. And it definitely has something to do with the case being too large for the calibe...
It’s a stunning reference.
They had me at the breguet numerals. I love the leaf hands and hollow lugs. And the size is more modern. The WG blue dial one is my favorite.
Thanks for your reaction, Gary!
I personally keep oscillating between ‘I love it’ and ‘it feels a bit odd’. I think trying a full set of Breguet numerals (except the 6) was a good idea, but the dial feels a bit crowded and the case a bit large. I would really need to see it in real life...
It really looks great on your wrist.
And you really know this piece because you own and wear it, whereas I've never seen one in real life: so my opinion is simply meaningless compared to yours. Thanks a lot for sharing and wear this beautiful timepiece in the best of health! And I wish you a...
I absolutely love this watch.
And can’t for the life of me understand why it’s not loved by the masses. It is definitely on my must have list and for me the rose is my favourite. M.
Thanks a lot for your reaction.
My problem is that I haven't seen one yet in real life and that judging from photos can be very misleading. So I'm glad that you (and a few others) love this watch so much: there's no doubt that I will try one on during my next visit to a PP Salon. Best, ...
I can always count on you to do a deep dive like this.
What is the general consensus of this vs 3940? I love the design of 3940 but it feels a bit small. This is better proportioned and still carries some classic design.🙏🙏🙏
Some love this 5327 because of the Breguet numerals
and of the scalloped lugs of the case, but many find the 39 mm too large for the 240 caliber and consider including Breguet numerals was a way of hiding this gap between the movement and the case. Having not had the chance to try it on, I don’t know how I...
Interesting… like a 5070… thanks!
I recently tried on 3940 again. It’s beautiful. ...
I was reading this article on 3940
https://collectability.com/learn/collectability-in-depth-patek-philippe-perpetual-calendar-ref-3940/ The Roman numerals reference is similar to 5327 despite the fact that it’s 36mm. 5740 has the 240 movement and is proportional despite its larger size. So...
The 36 mm Roman numerals ref. 3940 has no III, VI and IX,
whereas the 5327 has only no 6: the case being larger, the dial can and does include a 3 and a 9. As for the 5740, I suspect that its dial aperture is quite smaller, the bezel being large, than the one of the 5327, which has a thin bezel. So, for me, when...
Except for the 6 o'clock square marker, it is all Breguet.
And some say that these Breguet numerals were meant to "hide" the fact that a 39 mm case is a bit too large for the 240 caliber, which is also used on the 36 mm ref. 3940, for example. Best, Emmanuel
In general I like all these classic PCs from PP
But in my eyes the 5327 is oversized and a bit out of proportion. Only 3940, 5040 and 5940 have a date ring with similar sized numerals. But only the date numerals of the 5940 have this beautiful romantic typeface. In combination with the breguet hour num...
I’m all in with you concerning the 5940:
it’s a wonderful timepiece. As you know, I made an overview of the reference after you acquired your J. And I love it with its romantic typeface and tortue/cushion-shaped case. Best, Emmanuel
I absolutely love this watch.
And the 5327r is my favorite. Definitely on my list Enjoy. M.
Thanks for chiming in, Miles!
I hope you’ll be able to add a 5327R to your collection someday. Best, Emmanuel