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The internet will give you a hundred different opinions.
So, I'll chime in... I say forget the Parmigiani - it's a nice watch, but I'm personally not a fan of the bezel design with the half-way hash marks - plus the Alpine Eagle looks amazing in my eyes. So I'd get either a Chopard Alpine Eagle XPS (I can put you in touch with a sales associate who will make one available for you) or a Bulgari Octo Finissimo! The Vacheron Constantin Overseas is very thick and chunky! Great as a sports watch - but at 12.0mm thick, it's appeal as a dress watch is limited. And this particular Vacheron Constantin Dual Time complication - will you actually use it?
This movement is so much nicer than the OVERSEAS movement. And it's Geneva-Sealed, Micro-Rotored, and the micro rotor winds in both direction! 
Now that's a Vacheron I can really sink my teeth into.
Octo? It's very nice! No?
EVEN A MING would be nice!
Thoughts on the VC dual from the group
I’ve decided to bail on trading my Batman for a ( based on feedback ) Parmigiani , I won’t trade the Rolex. Now I’m considering ( later this year ) purchasing outright this VC for the following reasons: - 41mm is perfect for my wrist - the Overseas case d...
Keep your Batman, and go for the Parmigiani.
As for the Overseas, go for the WT. Best, Nicolas
The WT is nice but it’s considerably larger.
43 or 43.5mm if I remember correctly. In any case too large for my skinny wrist, while the WT is just great! ...
OMG, the Everest is a stunner and a 41mm to boot.
Sadly, it’s probably more than my budget. I’ve found a few on Chrono24, waiting to hear on the price.
The perfect watch for the modern world.
I’m a fan. 150M water resistance which is better than the PF’s 100m so you can actually swim comfortably. Anti-magnitism so you can feel comfortable using your computer. Magnets are everywhere these days. Trinity. Geneva Seal. Three bands/straps. 60 hour ...
The internet will give you a hundred different opinions.
So, I'll chime in... I say forget the Parmigiani - it's a nice watch, but I'm personally not a fan of the bezel design with the half-way hash marks - plus the Alpine Eagle looks amazing in my eyes. So I'd get either a Chopard Alpine Eagle XPS (I can put y...
That Chopard is sweet, especially that color dial. I do like traveling internationally but would I really use the dual time, probably not
I don’t mind a slightly thicker watch, fitting underneath a shirt isn’t a problem for me. The Bulgari’s feel to dressy to me. I do like the looks of the Ming. BTW- how deep is this Rabbithole?!
If you asked Lewis Carroll...
If you asked Lewis Carroll how deep the rabbit-hole was... I don't know how deep he would say it is. But welcome to Wonderland!
on a similar path to you...
I picked up a Tonda PF microrotor a couple years back, probably my most worn watch. But with no lume, super thin, and platinum accents, agreed it does not feel entirely "sporty". As a daily though, I wear it quite often. Now I too have been intrigued by t...
Good luck
I’ve been to at least 5 boutiques/ADs in the last 3 months (U.S., Japan, France) and Nobody had any of the OS models available to try on. Call first!
Quick Comparison To Octo Finissimo and Alpine Eagle XPS
Quick comparison to what you stated were pros for the VC... - 41mm is perfect for my wrist - the Alpine Eagle is also 41, and the Octo FInissimo is 40, but wears big - the Overseas case design feels Iconic - the Alpine Eagle is less iconic, and the Octo F...
Patrick, great insight and thanks for the help.
The Chopard Alpine Eagle 41mm is more appealing to me then the Bulgari and the dial color selections are 100% in my wheelhouse. Frankly, the pink , yellow/salmon, blue, green…any of these would be great. I am concerned about the Chopard bracelet and scrat...
In my opinion.... Yes 😁
It's one that I easily favor over any Rolex, and even Parmigiani.... Let us know! Good luck, Filip
I’m taking my time on this big decision Filip, i want to get it right , with no regrets.
I’ll plan a trip to get hands on with VC and Chopard Alpine Eagle. I like the Parmigiani brand, but it’s just not for me.
From my perspective....
This was a surprise turn of events on your end, I genuinely thought it was likely you'd get a Pf. As I said, I prefer the Overseas to the other watches easily, I'm holding my fingers crossed for you! Cheers, Filip
The feedback made me take a step back and ask myself “ do you love everything about this watch “ and I found that I didn’t.
My wife loaned me the Batman ( on permanent loan…my description ) and said , you shouldn’t sell the Batman. I respect her opinions, so it’s staying in the stable. I’ve always admired VC from afar and began to do my research, it’s probably the direction I’...
No, I have not tried the VC on. The dimensions 41mm X 12mm thick seem correct for my wrist.
I need to get to a Boutique for VC & Chopard.
Not too busy
It is a great time piece with a very useful complication. If you want something more simple go with the standard 3-hander. Some people feel the am/pm indicator is a bit "quirky" but IMO it's great. I have red, white and blue rubber straps. It looks great ...
I like the 3- hander, however the blue dial has a white datewheel and that’s a distraction for me. The silver dial is less of an issue.
Blue is my favorite color, so that’s the draw towards a blue dial.
Larry, i think this dual time is one of the best looking Oversea in the collection and the dial is not too busy (I would argue that the time only time is too boring!!!)
I like the way the day is displayed and i much prefer it as well to all the other choices you mentioned. I dont think you can go wrong.
The more that I look at that dial, I feel the same as you. The pusher at 5pm is a big plus from a design perspective.
Much to love with that watch. Thanks Yaco!
Glad you will be trying first
Especially a watch of this price. I’m with you 100% on the PF. I haven’t seen it in the metal yet. But I haven’t been compelled to. As it doesn’t look like it’s for me. There are better daily wearers in my opinion. In May, I tried on the blue dial VC over...
I haven’t tried either of those on, the GP L has some interesting dial colors available.
I have an AP RO 41mm and I worry that the GP L looks similar and that might keep me from wearing it. The IWC with the green/blue dial is very attractive and the size is good for my Mini Me wrist, but that VC feels more iconic to me. Maybe I’ve convinced m...
Oh, you already have an AP RO 41
In that case, the GP L will likely be redundant. I encourage you to still try on the Ingenieur. But yes, I agree, there is no contest between the IWC and VC movement. Enjoy the hunt! 👍🏻
Your earlier message made me chuckle, spending less on the one watch, so you can buy another.
That thought has Most definitely been rolling around in my head. Great minds think alike!
I’m also a big fan of the Chopard AE
Sadly, it will wear much too large on my 7 inch wrist…
Agreed
They are amazing. I haven’t tried one on personally, but I’m inclined to think the AE 41 will fit you if you are comfortable with AP RO 41
The new Chronograph’s and the 41mm white dial 3-hander.
The GMT and the Minute hand ( can’t remember the name ) that can be set to track an event were both very interesting. They have a lovely line-up, but I wish to go in another direction. You have one of those I believe.