Myopiccoog
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adding a little yellow to the rotation
Well... I have been hanging out with no_frills way too much. I have been in search for a 5970J for about 3 months now. My search concluded today. I only found 3-4 5970J’s readily available and for sale in the world on this search. In contrast, I came across ~15 5970P's. If anyone wants a P let me know. Maybe I will be fortunate enough to add the P to my collection one day as well. I saw some good deals on pre-owned P. Many G’s and R’s were offered. I am not kidding. But for now the J is the latest addition!
I want to thank SteelerFan and VC for their help. It is really nice to add the old (5970) to the new (5270). And some J to my G... I am going to have to agree with hutchman, the 5270 is a more advanced and exact watch from case to movement. The 5270 represents the present and the future. The 5970 represents the last of the past. And the J is fitting to me because it is the most “classic” of the 5970 references.
About the 5970J… It debuted at Basel 2008. The reference was manufactured for 9 months. Distributed for roughly 12 months from what I am told. It was discontinued for the 5970P at Basel 2009. I confirmed with Patek that it was indeed the least produced 5970 by many. Is uses the Caliber CH 27-70Q movement by Lemania finished by Patek. The case is 40MM (truly it is 39mm)
I am truly blessed to be able to particpate in this hobby and own such great works of art.

Reference Guide
quattro · Mar 23, 2025
Explore the Patek Philippe ref. 5270J-001, a modern perpetual calendar chronograph. Discover why this 41mm timepiece, with its in-house caliber CH 29-535 PS Q, is winning over collectors despite initial criticisms.
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Reference Guide
Mark in Paris · Nov 13, 2014
Mark in Paris compares Patek Philippe 5270G white/blue dials and 5170G to 5970, discussing design evolution, movement, and collector perceptions.
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Market
anaroku · Feb 28, 2022
Explore why Patek Philippe chronographs with Lemania movements like the 5070 and 5970 command higher prices than in-house models. Dive into movement architecture, market dynamics, and collector preferences.
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Collection
holdemchamp1225 · May 18, 2021
Discover why the Patek Philippe Ref. 5270G is winning over collectors, featuring insights on its in-house movement, design, and place in horological history.
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Collection
Mark in Paris · Aug 29, 2015
Explore the Patek Philippe 5170G chronograph's historical roots and design evolution. Mark in Paris compares it to vintage refs and the 5070.
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You know what's funny?
By: Mostel : April 21st, 2013-12:08
I am starting to have to 'remember' the 5270 is not a 5970... I look at it and think, wait, that's not a 5970... oh yeah... it's a 5270. So I guess the differences that were 'controversial' are not registering as much visually anymore. I like the smoke-co...
5270 vs 5970
By: Myopiccoog : April 25th, 2013-13:41
Mostel, I have had both together for a week. They are very different watches that have the same output of complications. The 5970 reminds me of the past. Everything about it says vintage or retro. The 5270 screams current and future. After reflecting quit...