patrick_y
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Watch savants historically have always complained first and have eventually turned around...
The launch of any watch - especially one that is similar to an existing iconic watch - is always very contentious. Especially on the internet. People have strong emotions. Some people are invested - for example many of our members have the Nautilus watch themselves and may feel this watch steps on their toes a bit. The green dial 5711 Nautilus was intended for very special Patek customers too. And those customers may feel slightly surprised that this same shade of green is now offered in a more permanent offering. This is the first time Patek Philippe has offered a new line of watches in about 25 years. The last new line was launched as the 24 in 1999. You can argue that the new round 24 pieces is a new line too - and that was only a few years ago.
The last men's watch was launched in 1997, so roughly 27 years ago. Also, to the casual observer and even the critical observer, many will say that this Cubitus, line is "too similar" to the Nautilus. Some people have used this "fact" (yes, too similar is an opinion, but let's call it a fact for the sake of argument) to say that this latest design was a "lazy design" (no insult to any of the designers at Patek Philippe at being lazy, it's just a figure of speech) which is probably a valid opinion. But! Despite all of this, Patek Philippe should embrace all of these opinions! Because it shows how highly revered the brand actually is and how high of a standard the public holds this brand in esteem!
In the end, watch tastes are very personal to each individual. Watch savants historically have generally complained first and also historically eventually turned around and accepted the product. Code 11.59 was seen negatively at first, seen as too modern, a piece of modern art (modern art is highly debated among art circles), and today seems to be settling in. That being said, I would expect this watch to be more accepted in the coming years!
Absurd Reaction to this New Line.
Everywhere I go I see some click loving “expert” tell me this line is defective somehow?? Just wait and look at them. The reaction has been absurd. You’d think this line was called the Patek Kardashian line based on the vitriol I’ve read. If you’re going ...
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The simple 3 hand with date on bracelet would have been a better launch watch. We’ll never know. I quite like them, I’ll never own one but that can be said for many lol 🍻
IMO, all watches need to be seen in the
metal before judgement can be passed ! Same for Cubitus. A friend who is in the watch biz was amazed on how good 5822P looked in the metal on his small wrist.
Why absurd?
If people don't like it should they remain silent? Only the cheering crowd is allowed to speak nowadays?
(said very calmly) Well, this actually might depend on....
...where you live. The question, in a sense, depends on other factors 'first'. One thing we can 'bank on', timepieces with non-round cases may be appearing more often than 'modern' norms (past two or three decades). Is it the 1970s we saw a lot of non-rou...
Yes, watch fans can be a bunch of spoiled crybabies throwing tantrums for sure.
The 11:59 overreactions were insane. My favorite is each year when Rolex announces their new models, there are always people on rolexforums.com who act like it's the worst thing that has ever happened in their lives. I mean, that's an incredible life,...
I think the “overreaction” comes from
The super high expectations people had. Myself included did expect more than a square nautilus. Sorry. Do the watches look terrible, no, not at all! Actually, they look much better than expected given how horrible the fortune ad looked.
So I actually tried them on today
And I kinda changed my mind, especially the 5822 is quite nice. Great heft and the big date and dial work well. I do have rather large wrist and I probably buy a few other pateks instead but way better in person and I was definitely a hater when I saw the...
I agree.
These same experts will be raving about this model when they have one to sell you.
At this price point, or any price point for that matter...
...people have the right to be picky and demand excellence. This line is lazy. It's what you get when a billionaire owner thinks he is a watch designer, and everyone in the company says, "It looks great, boss!" As for looks being subjective, sure. But I d...
Thank you for sharing this pristine example of trash bin 🤣
The yellow colour is icing on the top🤩 P.s. I wonder why there are so few photos of the casebacks 🤭🤭🤭🤭
Fully agree with you my friend.
It’s lazy in terms of design work. I’ve also said it before about sheep mentality. I’m careful not to follow wherever the brands lead. I prefer to be independent. Also beauty lies in the eye of the beholder. Perfectly normal for me to prefer the nautilus ...
Watch savants historically have always complained first and have eventually turned around...
The launch of any watch - especially one that is similar to an existing iconic watch - is always very contentious. Especially on the internet. People have strong emotions. Some people are invested - for example many of our members have the Nautilus watch ...
Of course
I’ll reserve my final judgment on the design until I can try the watch on my wrist. However, the features of this new line are also crucial to me, particularly in terms of value for money. As a matter of fact we’re discussing a new watch line from one of ...
I dont think it’s absurd
To wait so long hoping for something original and elegant from a top tier brand and be disappointed. I was disappointed by the design, the size of the case, the small round movement in a square case, lack of integrated crown for the complications (pushers...
It's a great discussion piece...
The Cubitus could be spearheading a resurgence in high end square integrated sports watches. History doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes. Cartier Santos may be the original design, but Cartier is now more or less putting modest movements into the standar...
I think it’s a good thing for Patek that people
are discussing so heatedly about the new line. If people were indifferent, that would actually be bad. Lest we forget, there can be no hate without love.
Having tried all three at my local AD, what really bothers me about this new release almost never got mentioned by all the haters.
To me, the date window on the time only pieces is too small. It appears to be a date window the size of a nautilus, but the Cubitus is a larger watch. That‘s not well balanced. Which also makes the platinum complication the best of the bunch for me. Peopl...
Why?
It's a lazy design, with a lazy execution. I don't need to have it in my hand to know that.